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[+] -9 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

So you don't care about environment, huh?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Hey, Mr. Self-righteous. Tell us about how you live in a small efficient urban dwelling served nearly entirely by renewable energy, that you don't own a car, don't eat meat, and never take longer than a 5 minute shower.

    And if even one of those things isn't true, I demand a full explanation for why you hate the planet and want it to die.

    Especially if you own a car. If you own a car and you're shaming people for the environmental impact of AI, you owe it to us all to sell that thing today and prove your superiority to the rest of us.

    EDIT: Nevermind, just reviewed your comment history to see that you are an enthusiastic spectator of the Russia/Ukraine war. Given that war is the single most ecologically destructive force on the planet, it is clear that you are completely irredeemable, and should keep your snide comments to yourself.

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    They are not magic. You are still using electricity, and for the same amount of work that cloud providers do you will consume the same amount. If every one of the billions of people using chatgpt or whatever buys rtx 5090 and makes it churn 24/7 for their "local" ai then nothing will change for the environment.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago*

    no you won't, datacenters inherently use far more electricity because they need enormous and intensive water cooling systems to cool the equipment

    99% of consumer gpus, even the high end, are air cooled with tiny fans


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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    But isn't it as bad as running a graphically intensive AAA game on your computer

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    That's still just moving the impact from data centers to end users' machines.

    Gamers (especially those that own 5090) are a tiny minority compared to llm users.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    This will just waste even more energy since cpus are less efficient at this kind of task.

    LLMs require insane amounts of compute, period. The hardware to do that needs energy and emits heat, there is no way around.

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