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[–] 269 points 2 days ago* (8 children)

Jury Nullification is like the secret code of the US justice system.That's why most of the people that work for the system absolutely despised the whole idea.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    Why should law enfocement and prosecuters get to decide which laws to enforce and which not to, but jurrors cant?

    Unless the laws on the books were short and perfect, there is always going to be enforcement choices, and it seems to me the jury nulification option is no worse than other selective enforcement. It lets guilty people go free, sure, but it sometimes stops unjust incarceration.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    In a sense, its the system functioning as it should. If you have a healthy democratic society with good principals, juries should acquit people for things that may be crimes but are perfectly reasonable and justified.

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  • [–] 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    The us justice system is already fucked up and makes a joke of the term justice.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago

    I mean, if it wasn't packaged up in the American flag and pax americana, your nations actions would be that of clearly terrorist nation.

    I don't expect the taliban to have a working legal/justice system either.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    This is really true. Pick a blog, video, or what ever lawyer you want making comment on the state of the federal justice system right now. It's a mess and a shit show.

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    Any justice system actually. Common law especially though.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Common Law is better than codified law. That's the only reason we have juries and don't just let judges decide the fate of the accused. Can you imagine, in this country, judges the sole decider of your case?

    The reason that the UK and US have had such cuntish law enforcement is not because of english common law. It should be noted the UK cancelled some of common law's basic tenants, like the right to a jury trial, not only afforded to indictable offenses, any crime with less than 3 years imprisonment is decided by their famously haughty aristocratic judges now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    Jury vs judge trial is a separate axis from common law vs civil law. You can have common law (where decisions of higher courts are deemed binding on lower courts) even if lower courts are all judge-only trials. You can have trials decided by a jury where every decision made by a judge is ultimately answerable only to written statute, with prior judicial judgments being at best persuasive.

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    Yeah, first the Tories maybe 5-7 years back or so cancelled juries for crimes with less than 1 year imprisonment, then Starmer's labour party just upped it to all crimes less than 3 years.

    In the late 19th century they also passed a law where if they thought jury tampering was going to happen they could just do it with a judge, idk how often they have used it though.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I'm sure the GOP will figure out how to get rid of it soon enough

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  • [–] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

    They would have to get rid of juries altogether.

    Given that our current legal system was created as a direct reaction to star chambers and baked into the constitution, they have an uphill climb, at the least.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    They don't care about the constitution man.

    Trump will do an executive order, it'll get tonthe Supreme.Cpurt, and they will just kneelnon it for "time to think about it." And that will be it, its "the law" now.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Why do people keep pretending the Supreme Court always agrees with Trump. They've struck him down often and seem to be taking a very strict constitutionalist view. Most recent example would be the whole birthright citizenship ruling.

    Obviously this court is terrible for many reasons, they gutted the voting rights act and ended Roe. But they're not getting rid of juries their record is clear there

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    The Supreme Court isn't going to curb its own power for Trump. Even with three of them permanently hanging off his dick, they've shut down literally everything he's done that could affect them personally.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    they will give him a secret trial, or disappear to one of thier concentration camps in the south, which would mostly be texas, and the msms will never ever report on a citizen getting detained, at least not a white one.

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