▲ 307 ▼ Cops get paid 6 figures for this (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 days ago by VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to c/thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world 62 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Breezy@lemmy.world -21 points 1 day ago (2 children) Yes taking something that is not yours is theft. As stupid as this situation is it is still a crime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 point 15 hours ago (1 child) I love how Lemmy has just turned into Reddit, with how you're downvoted for being right and actually engaging in this discussion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bilb@lemmy.ml 1 point 14 hours ago Lemmy is full of people from reddit, increasingly so. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 50 points 1 day ago (3 children) Uh.. There are finders rights and reasonable doubt. There is no identifiable owner of money unless you saw someone drop it. And any employee is more likely to keep it themselves. There's no such thing as a free and democratic nation that would prosecute people for this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Manjushri@piefed.social 4 points 22 hours ago Uh.. There are finders rights and reasonable doubt. Even under old English common law, finders rights would not have applied here. The finder can make a claim of ownership against anyone except the person who lost it. If the person who dropped the money is trying to recover it, then the finder has to return it. Even so, this isn't old England. Local laws apply and in most jurisdictions, found property must be turned over to the authorities to allow the original owner a chance to come claim it. After a certain time period, often thirty days, the finder can return and claim the item. 'Finders keepers' and the law Much like many commenters, you might be thinking, if this man found a fairly small sum of abandoned cash on the ground, then it's no harm to keep it. But, under Georgia Code § 16-8-6, "keeping property you know or learn is lost or mislaid without making reasonable efforts to return it to the owner is considered the criminal offense of theft of lost or mislaid property." In other words, Georgia does not take "finders keepers" as a sufficient answer to why someone might keep the money permalink fedilink source parent [–] nullspace@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago I'd get the theft angle if you found a wallet or "found" a bike lying there, but when it's cash it's in the realm of criminalizing someone for picking up a quarter off the ground, or a penny even. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -4 points 21 hours ago (1 child) This is a legal question and you are not making any legal arguments, just emotional ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children) Finders rights and reasonable doubt are legal arguments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 child) This is the US. It doesn't really work anything like Law & Order and CSI for anyone who doesn't have a whole lot of money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 2 points 19 hours ago (1 child) Which I pointed to in my original statement. "Any free and democratic nation". I don't think it needs to be said that the US is neither free or democratic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago* (1 child) But... you were the one arguing about the validity of your arguments knowing this happened in the US. The legal system of Never Never Land doesn't really apply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago TIL that Canada is never never land. permalink fedilink source parent [+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 18 hours ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 point 15 hours ago (1 child) I love how Lemmy has just turned into Reddit, with how you're downvoted for being right and actually engaging in this discussion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bilb@lemmy.ml 1 point 14 hours ago Lemmy is full of people from reddit, increasingly so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 1 point 14 hours ago Lemmy is full of people from reddit, increasingly so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 50 points 1 day ago (3 children) Uh.. There are finders rights and reasonable doubt. There is no identifiable owner of money unless you saw someone drop it. And any employee is more likely to keep it themselves. There's no such thing as a free and democratic nation that would prosecute people for this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Manjushri@piefed.social 4 points 22 hours ago Uh.. There are finders rights and reasonable doubt. Even under old English common law, finders rights would not have applied here. The finder can make a claim of ownership against anyone except the person who lost it. If the person who dropped the money is trying to recover it, then the finder has to return it. Even so, this isn't old England. Local laws apply and in most jurisdictions, found property must be turned over to the authorities to allow the original owner a chance to come claim it. After a certain time period, often thirty days, the finder can return and claim the item. 'Finders keepers' and the law Much like many commenters, you might be thinking, if this man found a fairly small sum of abandoned cash on the ground, then it's no harm to keep it. But, under Georgia Code § 16-8-6, "keeping property you know or learn is lost or mislaid without making reasonable efforts to return it to the owner is considered the criminal offense of theft of lost or mislaid property." In other words, Georgia does not take "finders keepers" as a sufficient answer to why someone might keep the money permalink fedilink source parent [–] nullspace@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago I'd get the theft angle if you found a wallet or "found" a bike lying there, but when it's cash it's in the realm of criminalizing someone for picking up a quarter off the ground, or a penny even. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -4 points 21 hours ago (1 child) This is a legal question and you are not making any legal arguments, just emotional ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children) Finders rights and reasonable doubt are legal arguments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 child) This is the US. It doesn't really work anything like Law & Order and CSI for anyone who doesn't have a whole lot of money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 2 points 19 hours ago (1 child) Which I pointed to in my original statement. "Any free and democratic nation". I don't think it needs to be said that the US is neither free or democratic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago* (1 child) But... you were the one arguing about the validity of your arguments knowing this happened in the US. The legal system of Never Never Land doesn't really apply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago TIL that Canada is never never land. permalink fedilink source parent [+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 18 hours ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 4 points 22 hours ago Uh.. There are finders rights and reasonable doubt. Even under old English common law, finders rights would not have applied here. The finder can make a claim of ownership against anyone except the person who lost it. If the person who dropped the money is trying to recover it, then the finder has to return it. Even so, this isn't old England. Local laws apply and in most jurisdictions, found property must be turned over to the authorities to allow the original owner a chance to come claim it. After a certain time period, often thirty days, the finder can return and claim the item. 'Finders keepers' and the law Much like many commenters, you might be thinking, if this man found a fairly small sum of abandoned cash on the ground, then it's no harm to keep it. But, under Georgia Code § 16-8-6, "keeping property you know or learn is lost or mislaid without making reasonable efforts to return it to the owner is considered the criminal offense of theft of lost or mislaid property." In other words, Georgia does not take "finders keepers" as a sufficient answer to why someone might keep the money permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago I'd get the theft angle if you found a wallet or "found" a bike lying there, but when it's cash it's in the realm of criminalizing someone for picking up a quarter off the ground, or a penny even. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -4 points 21 hours ago (1 child) This is a legal question and you are not making any legal arguments, just emotional ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children) Finders rights and reasonable doubt are legal arguments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 child) This is the US. It doesn't really work anything like Law & Order and CSI for anyone who doesn't have a whole lot of money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 2 points 19 hours ago (1 child) Which I pointed to in my original statement. "Any free and democratic nation". I don't think it needs to be said that the US is neither free or democratic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago* (1 child) But... you were the one arguing about the validity of your arguments knowing this happened in the US. The legal system of Never Never Land doesn't really apply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago TIL that Canada is never never land. permalink fedilink source parent [+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 18 hours ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children) Finders rights and reasonable doubt are legal arguments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 child) This is the US. It doesn't really work anything like Law & Order and CSI for anyone who doesn't have a whole lot of money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 2 points 19 hours ago (1 child) Which I pointed to in my original statement. "Any free and democratic nation". I don't think it needs to be said that the US is neither free or democratic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago* (1 child) But... you were the one arguing about the validity of your arguments knowing this happened in the US. The legal system of Never Never Land doesn't really apply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago TIL that Canada is never never land. permalink fedilink source parent [+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 point 18 hours ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 child) This is the US. It doesn't really work anything like Law & Order and CSI for anyone who doesn't have a whole lot of money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 2 points 19 hours ago (1 child) Which I pointed to in my original statement. "Any free and democratic nation". I don't think it needs to be said that the US is neither free or democratic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago* (1 child) But... you were the one arguing about the validity of your arguments knowing this happened in the US. The legal system of Never Never Land doesn't really apply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago TIL that Canada is never never land. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 2 points 19 hours ago (1 child) Which I pointed to in my original statement. "Any free and democratic nation". I don't think it needs to be said that the US is neither free or democratic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago* (1 child) But... you were the one arguing about the validity of your arguments knowing this happened in the US. The legal system of Never Never Land doesn't really apply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago TIL that Canada is never never land. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 point 19 hours ago* (1 child) But... you were the one arguing about the validity of your arguments knowing this happened in the US. The legal system of Never Never Land doesn't really apply. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago TIL that Canada is never never land. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 0 points 19 hours ago TIL that Canada is never never land. permalink fedilink source parent