▲ 405 ▼ Everything was almost perfect. Until... (thelemmy.club) submitted 5 days ago by Crumpled6273@lemmy.ca to c/memes@lemmy.world 175 comments fedilink hide all child comments Arch is different...
[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 133 points 5 days ago (5 children) "No way to prevent this" says only distro where this regularly happens permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children) News from this year: virtualbox-ext-vnc >= 7.2.12-2 requires manual intervention (package won't install) Active AUR malicious packages incident (the AUR is locked) Arch Linux 2026 Leader Election Results Breaking changes for all users of varnish, which is renamed to vinyl-cache (it's a proxy, only affects servers) kea >= 1:3.0.3-6 update requires manual intervention (dhcp server, affects routers) iptables now defaults to the nft backend (affects pretty much nothing) Repost. Also, my Mint install broke, uh, shit I don't remember, 5 times? Arch broke zero times. Zero times not my own fault for forgetting I was installing something and shutting off the computer, of course. Except for the times I tried the fucking installer python script, but since I never even booted the install it doesn't count. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (1 child) Mint broke for you? That's the first I've heard of it. Also if you have a habit of shutting down the PC during updates, check out atomic/immutable distros. They are almost impossible to break. You can pull the power during an update and it'll be fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago Mint breaks weirdly often but also it's inconsistent in my experience. It's a great example of it explodes for some people and others it's a god like entity of perfection. Never in-between. Lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] silasmariner@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago Iptables change actually fucked me because I'd tweaked something stupid 12 years ago and forgot. Took lime 45-60 mins to fix permalink fedilink source parent [–] l3mming@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) If you're running Virtualbox on Arch you deserve everything you get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago What's wrong with it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kabutor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 child) I dont get the bad press arch got. I use arch (btw) and can't remember last time it wont boot after an update. It maybe happened to me twice in 20 years and at least once was my fault and the other was because i didn't read the pacman post warning me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) Once it happened to me because 6 years prior I'd made a change thinking 'hah. That makes more sense' and then things changed under me and I had to read journalctl in a tty. Low key enjoyed dealing with it. But here's the thing: most ppl are dead at that point. No idea what to do. Arch is for nerds. Edit: this is a completely different thing. I had two issues. permalink fedilink source parent [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 days ago (2 children) this year And one post earlier (2025-12-20) that the image likely could be about: NVIDIA 590 driver drops Pascal and lower support Install nvidia-580xx-dkms from the AUR Impact: Updating the NVIDIA packages [without manually changing to AUR packages] on systems with Pascal, Maxwell, or older cards will fail to load the driver, which may result in a broken graphical environment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago If Nvidia deprecates your driver you'll be up shits creek on just about every distro unless you already used nouveau. permalink fedilink source parent [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 days ago Yes, that was a while ago, so it's a repost. Also, NoVideo deprecations affect all distributions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 5 days ago* (1 child) Active AUR malicious packages incident (the AUR is locked) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) To be fair, adoption as a concept is the problem not the actual aur. The fundamentals of the aur was fine though that entire ordeal. It's just one optional choice layered on top that wasn't Blaming the aur fundamentally for that choice is like blaming the city planner for when a idiot turns down the wrong way on a one way street. We kinda just accepted the risk because the upsides were worth it. But some people are assholes and gotta ruin it for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 days ago This isn't the first type of problem that the AUR has had. A few years ago it had problems staying up, because it had no scalability to speak of. "Best hopes and wishes" is not an accepted engineering design strategy. If something can be abused, it will be. Not planning for it is just that, poor planning. The AUR has been poorly put together and this wave of malware is just another symptom of a deeper problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago Foot-guns are my PROTECTED SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 child) Arch explicitly says "never do this" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 18 points 5 days ago (1 child) Well yeah and cigarettes tell you not to smoke them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago (2 children) Lol. Care to explain how your analogy stands? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (4 children) Arch will give you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago Arch can be traded for sex and murders in prison. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 child) Hasn’t yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Ubuntu pissed me off back when Shuttleworth said, "This is not a democracy!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago Oh yeah, I did miss some crazy stuff in my windows days permalink fedilink source parent [–] gooballer@lemmy.today 2 points 5 days ago (2 children) I have been using arch linux. And I havent gotten cancer yet. How do i have to be using arch linux to get it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago I smoke since 20 years and I haven't gotten cancer yet too. How do I smoke to get cancer? /s Cigarettes work for me perfectly well, other users must be doing something wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) You need to be wearing striped thigh-highs I think permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 3 points 4 days ago No no no, that's how you prevent it. Striped thigh-highs and fursuits isolate against the cancerous effects. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Exactly permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* (1 child) Hasn't yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely Edit: sorry, wrong thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 child) Damn I thought you were about to say Ubuntu gave you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) I was :) But then decided it wasn't that serious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Did you know that glass is technically a liquid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Lol. Care to explain how your analogy stands? It stands as written. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 days ago (1 child) Reminds me of my try of Nobara. I do clean install, it installs and starts updating itself for a long while. Afterwards it tells me to reboot, and that the update has failed. I am??? Since I am a noob, so I reboot. And the whole system fully breaks, and no trouble-shooting helps, so I have to re-install. No biggie, just mildly annoying, it was a clean install after all. Then I do some searching to figure out, what went wrong, and find out, that updates failing and the system fully breaking, and having to re-install it if you reboot, is apparently normal behavior for Nobara. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sunnyjim@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago I've had Nobara on my PC for several years and not had a problem, though I know others have Having said that, if I could be bothered I would probably just return to regular Fedora again so that I could have a decent package manager and updater... permalink fedilink source parent [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago To be honest, I'm a firm believer that if it's considered required to read the news file for updating then the update tool should be printing that information for you. I used to have a hook that did it, but it was flaky. Also, I saw the creator mention that due to the design of the hooks, it happens too late in the process for some manual intervention to be done properly. But because everyone in Arch has such an obsession with "no bloat" I doubt we'll ever see pacman have that feature. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children) News from this year: virtualbox-ext-vnc >= 7.2.12-2 requires manual intervention (package won't install) Active AUR malicious packages incident (the AUR is locked) Arch Linux 2026 Leader Election Results Breaking changes for all users of varnish, which is renamed to vinyl-cache (it's a proxy, only affects servers) kea >= 1:3.0.3-6 update requires manual intervention (dhcp server, affects routers) iptables now defaults to the nft backend (affects pretty much nothing) Repost. Also, my Mint install broke, uh, shit I don't remember, 5 times? Arch broke zero times. Zero times not my own fault for forgetting I was installing something and shutting off the computer, of course. Except for the times I tried the fucking installer python script, but since I never even booted the install it doesn't count. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (1 child) Mint broke for you? That's the first I've heard of it. Also if you have a habit of shutting down the PC during updates, check out atomic/immutable distros. They are almost impossible to break. You can pull the power during an update and it'll be fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago Mint breaks weirdly often but also it's inconsistent in my experience. It's a great example of it explodes for some people and others it's a god like entity of perfection. Never in-between. Lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] silasmariner@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago Iptables change actually fucked me because I'd tweaked something stupid 12 years ago and forgot. Took lime 45-60 mins to fix permalink fedilink source parent [–] l3mming@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) If you're running Virtualbox on Arch you deserve everything you get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago What's wrong with it? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kabutor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 child) I dont get the bad press arch got. I use arch (btw) and can't remember last time it wont boot after an update. It maybe happened to me twice in 20 years and at least once was my fault and the other was because i didn't read the pacman post warning me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) Once it happened to me because 6 years prior I'd made a change thinking 'hah. That makes more sense' and then things changed under me and I had to read journalctl in a tty. Low key enjoyed dealing with it. But here's the thing: most ppl are dead at that point. No idea what to do. Arch is for nerds. Edit: this is a completely different thing. I had two issues. permalink fedilink source parent [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 days ago (2 children) this year And one post earlier (2025-12-20) that the image likely could be about: NVIDIA 590 driver drops Pascal and lower support Install nvidia-580xx-dkms from the AUR Impact: Updating the NVIDIA packages [without manually changing to AUR packages] on systems with Pascal, Maxwell, or older cards will fail to load the driver, which may result in a broken graphical environment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago If Nvidia deprecates your driver you'll be up shits creek on just about every distro unless you already used nouveau. permalink fedilink source parent [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 days ago Yes, that was a while ago, so it's a repost. Also, NoVideo deprecations affect all distributions. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 5 days ago* (1 child) Active AUR malicious packages incident (the AUR is locked) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) To be fair, adoption as a concept is the problem not the actual aur. The fundamentals of the aur was fine though that entire ordeal. It's just one optional choice layered on top that wasn't Blaming the aur fundamentally for that choice is like blaming the city planner for when a idiot turns down the wrong way on a one way street. We kinda just accepted the risk because the upsides were worth it. But some people are assholes and gotta ruin it for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 days ago This isn't the first type of problem that the AUR has had. A few years ago it had problems staying up, because it had no scalability to speak of. "Best hopes and wishes" is not an accepted engineering design strategy. If something can be abused, it will be. Not planning for it is just that, poor planning. The AUR has been poorly put together and this wave of malware is just another symptom of a deeper problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (1 child) Mint broke for you? That's the first I've heard of it. Also if you have a habit of shutting down the PC during updates, check out atomic/immutable distros. They are almost impossible to break. You can pull the power during an update and it'll be fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago Mint breaks weirdly often but also it's inconsistent in my experience. It's a great example of it explodes for some people and others it's a god like entity of perfection. Never in-between. Lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago Mint breaks weirdly often but also it's inconsistent in my experience. It's a great example of it explodes for some people and others it's a god like entity of perfection. Never in-between. Lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 5 points 5 days ago Iptables change actually fucked me because I'd tweaked something stupid 12 years ago and forgot. Took lime 45-60 mins to fix permalink fedilink source parent
[–] l3mming@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 child) If you're running Virtualbox on Arch you deserve everything you get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago What's wrong with it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago What's wrong with it? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kabutor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 child) I dont get the bad press arch got. I use arch (btw) and can't remember last time it wont boot after an update. It maybe happened to me twice in 20 years and at least once was my fault and the other was because i didn't read the pacman post warning me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) Once it happened to me because 6 years prior I'd made a change thinking 'hah. That makes more sense' and then things changed under me and I had to read journalctl in a tty. Low key enjoyed dealing with it. But here's the thing: most ppl are dead at that point. No idea what to do. Arch is for nerds. Edit: this is a completely different thing. I had two issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) Once it happened to me because 6 years prior I'd made a change thinking 'hah. That makes more sense' and then things changed under me and I had to read journalctl in a tty. Low key enjoyed dealing with it. But here's the thing: most ppl are dead at that point. No idea what to do. Arch is for nerds. Edit: this is a completely different thing. I had two issues. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 days ago (2 children) this year And one post earlier (2025-12-20) that the image likely could be about: NVIDIA 590 driver drops Pascal and lower support Install nvidia-580xx-dkms from the AUR Impact: Updating the NVIDIA packages [without manually changing to AUR packages] on systems with Pascal, Maxwell, or older cards will fail to load the driver, which may result in a broken graphical environment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago If Nvidia deprecates your driver you'll be up shits creek on just about every distro unless you already used nouveau. permalink fedilink source parent [–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 days ago Yes, that was a while ago, so it's a repost. Also, NoVideo deprecations affect all distributions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 days ago If Nvidia deprecates your driver you'll be up shits creek on just about every distro unless you already used nouveau. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 days ago Yes, that was a while ago, so it's a repost. Also, NoVideo deprecations affect all distributions. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 5 days ago* (1 child) Active AUR malicious packages incident (the AUR is locked) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) To be fair, adoption as a concept is the problem not the actual aur. The fundamentals of the aur was fine though that entire ordeal. It's just one optional choice layered on top that wasn't Blaming the aur fundamentally for that choice is like blaming the city planner for when a idiot turns down the wrong way on a one way street. We kinda just accepted the risk because the upsides were worth it. But some people are assholes and gotta ruin it for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 days ago This isn't the first type of problem that the AUR has had. A few years ago it had problems staying up, because it had no scalability to speak of. "Best hopes and wishes" is not an accepted engineering design strategy. If something can be abused, it will be. Not planning for it is just that, poor planning. The AUR has been poorly put together and this wave of malware is just another symptom of a deeper problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) To be fair, adoption as a concept is the problem not the actual aur. The fundamentals of the aur was fine though that entire ordeal. It's just one optional choice layered on top that wasn't Blaming the aur fundamentally for that choice is like blaming the city planner for when a idiot turns down the wrong way on a one way street. We kinda just accepted the risk because the upsides were worth it. But some people are assholes and gotta ruin it for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 days ago This isn't the first type of problem that the AUR has had. A few years ago it had problems staying up, because it had no scalability to speak of. "Best hopes and wishes" is not an accepted engineering design strategy. If something can be abused, it will be. Not planning for it is just that, poor planning. The AUR has been poorly put together and this wave of malware is just another symptom of a deeper problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 4 days ago This isn't the first type of problem that the AUR has had. A few years ago it had problems staying up, because it had no scalability to speak of. "Best hopes and wishes" is not an accepted engineering design strategy. If something can be abused, it will be. Not planning for it is just that, poor planning. The AUR has been poorly put together and this wave of malware is just another symptom of a deeper problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago Foot-guns are my PROTECTED SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 child) Arch explicitly says "never do this" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 18 points 5 days ago (1 child) Well yeah and cigarettes tell you not to smoke them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago (2 children) Lol. Care to explain how your analogy stands? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (4 children) Arch will give you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago Arch can be traded for sex and murders in prison. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 child) Hasn’t yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Ubuntu pissed me off back when Shuttleworth said, "This is not a democracy!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago Oh yeah, I did miss some crazy stuff in my windows days permalink fedilink source parent [–] gooballer@lemmy.today 2 points 5 days ago (2 children) I have been using arch linux. And I havent gotten cancer yet. How do i have to be using arch linux to get it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago I smoke since 20 years and I haven't gotten cancer yet too. How do I smoke to get cancer? /s Cigarettes work for me perfectly well, other users must be doing something wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) You need to be wearing striped thigh-highs I think permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 3 points 4 days ago No no no, that's how you prevent it. Striped thigh-highs and fursuits isolate against the cancerous effects. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Exactly permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* (1 child) Hasn't yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely Edit: sorry, wrong thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 child) Damn I thought you were about to say Ubuntu gave you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) I was :) But then decided it wasn't that serious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Did you know that glass is technically a liquid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Lol. Care to explain how your analogy stands? It stands as written. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 18 points 5 days ago (1 child) Well yeah and cigarettes tell you not to smoke them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago (2 children) Lol. Care to explain how your analogy stands? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (4 children) Arch will give you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago Arch can be traded for sex and murders in prison. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 child) Hasn’t yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Ubuntu pissed me off back when Shuttleworth said, "This is not a democracy!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago Oh yeah, I did miss some crazy stuff in my windows days permalink fedilink source parent [–] gooballer@lemmy.today 2 points 5 days ago (2 children) I have been using arch linux. And I havent gotten cancer yet. How do i have to be using arch linux to get it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago I smoke since 20 years and I haven't gotten cancer yet too. How do I smoke to get cancer? /s Cigarettes work for me perfectly well, other users must be doing something wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) You need to be wearing striped thigh-highs I think permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 3 points 4 days ago No no no, that's how you prevent it. Striped thigh-highs and fursuits isolate against the cancerous effects. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Exactly permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* (1 child) Hasn't yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely Edit: sorry, wrong thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 child) Damn I thought you were about to say Ubuntu gave you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) I was :) But then decided it wasn't that serious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Did you know that glass is technically a liquid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Lol. Care to explain how your analogy stands? It stands as written. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago (2 children) Lol. Care to explain how your analogy stands? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Glytch@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (4 children) Arch will give you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago Arch can be traded for sex and murders in prison. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 child) Hasn’t yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Ubuntu pissed me off back when Shuttleworth said, "This is not a democracy!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago Oh yeah, I did miss some crazy stuff in my windows days permalink fedilink source parent [–] gooballer@lemmy.today 2 points 5 days ago (2 children) I have been using arch linux. And I havent gotten cancer yet. How do i have to be using arch linux to get it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago I smoke since 20 years and I haven't gotten cancer yet too. How do I smoke to get cancer? /s Cigarettes work for me perfectly well, other users must be doing something wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) You need to be wearing striped thigh-highs I think permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 3 points 4 days ago No no no, that's how you prevent it. Striped thigh-highs and fursuits isolate against the cancerous effects. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Exactly permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* (1 child) Hasn't yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely Edit: sorry, wrong thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 child) Damn I thought you were about to say Ubuntu gave you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) I was :) But then decided it wasn't that serious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Did you know that glass is technically a liquid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Lol. Care to explain how your analogy stands? It stands as written. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (4 children) Arch will give you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago Arch can be traded for sex and murders in prison. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 child) Hasn’t yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Ubuntu pissed me off back when Shuttleworth said, "This is not a democracy!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago Oh yeah, I did miss some crazy stuff in my windows days permalink fedilink source parent [–] gooballer@lemmy.today 2 points 5 days ago (2 children) I have been using arch linux. And I havent gotten cancer yet. How do i have to be using arch linux to get it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago I smoke since 20 years and I haven't gotten cancer yet too. How do I smoke to get cancer? /s Cigarettes work for me perfectly well, other users must be doing something wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) You need to be wearing striped thigh-highs I think permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 3 points 4 days ago No no no, that's how you prevent it. Striped thigh-highs and fursuits isolate against the cancerous effects. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Exactly permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* (1 child) Hasn't yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely Edit: sorry, wrong thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 child) Damn I thought you were about to say Ubuntu gave you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) I was :) But then decided it wasn't that serious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Did you know that glass is technically a liquid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago Arch can be traded for sex and murders in prison. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 child) Hasn’t yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Ubuntu pissed me off back when Shuttleworth said, "This is not a democracy!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago Oh yeah, I did miss some crazy stuff in my windows days permalink fedilink source parent
[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 child) Ubuntu pissed me off back when Shuttleworth said, "This is not a democracy!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago Oh yeah, I did miss some crazy stuff in my windows days permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago Oh yeah, I did miss some crazy stuff in my windows days permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gooballer@lemmy.today 2 points 5 days ago (2 children) I have been using arch linux. And I havent gotten cancer yet. How do i have to be using arch linux to get it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago I smoke since 20 years and I haven't gotten cancer yet too. How do I smoke to get cancer? /s Cigarettes work for me perfectly well, other users must be doing something wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) You need to be wearing striped thigh-highs I think permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 3 points 4 days ago No no no, that's how you prevent it. Striped thigh-highs and fursuits isolate against the cancerous effects. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago I smoke since 20 years and I haven't gotten cancer yet too. How do I smoke to get cancer? /s Cigarettes work for me perfectly well, other users must be doing something wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago (1 child) You need to be wearing striped thigh-highs I think permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 3 points 4 days ago No no no, that's how you prevent it. Striped thigh-highs and fursuits isolate against the cancerous effects. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bearoftheisle@europe.pub 3 points 4 days ago No no no, that's how you prevent it. Striped thigh-highs and fursuits isolate against the cancerous effects. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 child) Exactly permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* (1 child) Hasn't yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely Edit: sorry, wrong thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 child) Damn I thought you were about to say Ubuntu gave you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) I was :) But then decided it wasn't that serious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Did you know that glass is technically a liquid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 5 days ago* (1 child) Hasn't yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely Edit: sorry, wrong thread permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 child) Damn I thought you were about to say Ubuntu gave you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) I was :) But then decided it wasn't that serious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Did you know that glass is technically a liquid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 child) Damn I thought you were about to say Ubuntu gave you cancer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) I was :) But then decided it wasn't that serious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Did you know that glass is technically a liquid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) I was :) But then decided it wasn't that serious permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Did you know that glass is technically a liquid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) Did you know that glass is technically a liquid? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 1 point 4 days ago As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago Lol. Care to explain how your analogy stands? It stands as written. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kolmaskommentoija@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 days ago (1 child) Reminds me of my try of Nobara. I do clean install, it installs and starts updating itself for a long while. Afterwards it tells me to reboot, and that the update has failed. I am??? Since I am a noob, so I reboot. And the whole system fully breaks, and no trouble-shooting helps, so I have to re-install. No biggie, just mildly annoying, it was a clean install after all. Then I do some searching to figure out, what went wrong, and find out, that updates failing and the system fully breaking, and having to re-install it if you reboot, is apparently normal behavior for Nobara. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sunnyjim@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago I've had Nobara on my PC for several years and not had a problem, though I know others have Having said that, if I could be bothered I would probably just return to regular Fedora again so that I could have a decent package manager and updater... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sunnyjim@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago I've had Nobara on my PC for several years and not had a problem, though I know others have Having said that, if I could be bothered I would probably just return to regular Fedora again so that I could have a decent package manager and updater... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago To be honest, I'm a firm believer that if it's considered required to read the news file for updating then the update tool should be printing that information for you. I used to have a hook that did it, but it was flaky. Also, I saw the creator mention that due to the design of the hooks, it happens too late in the process for some manual intervention to be done properly. But because everyone in Arch has such an obsession with "no bloat" I doubt we'll ever see pacman have that feature. permalink fedilink source parent
