▲ 641 ▼ Ancient Historians v. Modern Historians (thelemmy.club) submitted 19 hours ago by zarkanian@sh.itjust.works to c/memes@sopuli.xyz 79 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] DarkSirrush@piefed.ca 31 points 17 hours ago (2 children) The local Aboriginals to me have oral stories about the most recent ice age. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 28 points 17 hours ago (2 children) Yeah, some of the stuff that has been able to be confirmed via geological studies is just insane. It's crazy to me how they aren't more widely known for disrupting the idea of prehistory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago Blame the people who don't look like them but run the country. Anglo fragility won't give brown people have a chance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 child) I wouldn't say the idea of prehistory is disrupted per se. But we have to accept that it's region-dependent. In any given region (recorded) history started when the oldest still available account was preserved. Some regions are far better at preserving very old accounts than others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 5 points 11 hours ago (1 child) That's not how we classically define prehistory though. Technically pre-history is defined as the period of time beginning when the first humans started using stone tools and ending when different cultures developed writing systems. My criticism is that western scholars put too much importance on the written word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 1 point 7 hours ago* (1 child) That's my point: The classical definition makes the assumption that written records are the only records with any kind of reliability, which doesn't hold everywhere. I could've phrased it better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 point 50 minutes ago That was also my original point when I said it disrupted the concept of prehistory. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago If I had money I'd spend all my time learning from these people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 28 points 17 hours ago (2 children) Yeah, some of the stuff that has been able to be confirmed via geological studies is just insane. It's crazy to me how they aren't more widely known for disrupting the idea of prehistory. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago Blame the people who don't look like them but run the country. Anglo fragility won't give brown people have a chance. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 child) I wouldn't say the idea of prehistory is disrupted per se. But we have to accept that it's region-dependent. In any given region (recorded) history started when the oldest still available account was preserved. Some regions are far better at preserving very old accounts than others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 5 points 11 hours ago (1 child) That's not how we classically define prehistory though. Technically pre-history is defined as the period of time beginning when the first humans started using stone tools and ending when different cultures developed writing systems. My criticism is that western scholars put too much importance on the written word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 1 point 7 hours ago* (1 child) That's my point: The classical definition makes the assumption that written records are the only records with any kind of reliability, which doesn't hold everywhere. I could've phrased it better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 point 50 minutes ago That was also my original point when I said it disrupted the concept of prehistory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago Blame the people who don't look like them but run the country. Anglo fragility won't give brown people have a chance. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 child) I wouldn't say the idea of prehistory is disrupted per se. But we have to accept that it's region-dependent. In any given region (recorded) history started when the oldest still available account was preserved. Some regions are far better at preserving very old accounts than others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 5 points 11 hours ago (1 child) That's not how we classically define prehistory though. Technically pre-history is defined as the period of time beginning when the first humans started using stone tools and ending when different cultures developed writing systems. My criticism is that western scholars put too much importance on the written word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 1 point 7 hours ago* (1 child) That's my point: The classical definition makes the assumption that written records are the only records with any kind of reliability, which doesn't hold everywhere. I could've phrased it better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 point 50 minutes ago That was also my original point when I said it disrupted the concept of prehistory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 5 points 11 hours ago (1 child) That's not how we classically define prehistory though. Technically pre-history is defined as the period of time beginning when the first humans started using stone tools and ending when different cultures developed writing systems. My criticism is that western scholars put too much importance on the written word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 1 point 7 hours ago* (1 child) That's my point: The classical definition makes the assumption that written records are the only records with any kind of reliability, which doesn't hold everywhere. I could've phrased it better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 point 50 minutes ago That was also my original point when I said it disrupted the concept of prehistory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 1 point 7 hours ago* (1 child) That's my point: The classical definition makes the assumption that written records are the only records with any kind of reliability, which doesn't hold everywhere. I could've phrased it better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 point 50 minutes ago That was also my original point when I said it disrupted the concept of prehistory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 point 50 minutes ago That was also my original point when I said it disrupted the concept of prehistory. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago If I had money I'd spend all my time learning from these people permalink fedilink source parent
