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[–] 83 points 1 month ago (31 children)

Mines been gone ever since what they did to fuck over Bernie from receiving the nomination.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Yeah, both the DNC, and Elizabeth Warren did this.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I wasn't a fan myself. I resented the hell out of him for entering the race in 2020 and outing Bernie. I don't like to talk about it much because it makes me seem like a Bernie bro but as far as I'm concerned the democratic establishment did everything they could to keep a socialist out of the whitehouse. The entire primary was political theater to dilute the socialist agenda and Biden only entered the race when it was clear that, even with his base split between him and warren, nothing was going to stop Sanders.

    BUT, as someone who spent time in the trade unions I swallowed my pride and voted for Biden. I didn't expect much, but I did expect a damn democrat to do what they always say they would do and support the union block.

    2020 was the moment. It was the last time I actually thought we could turn things around. Ever since that primary I've just been waiting for us to go the way of the USSR.

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  • [+] -27 points 1 month ago (23 children)

    What did they do? Run against him in primaries and let people vote for the other person?

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (22 children)

    Super delegates come to mind. They mostly sided with Hillary. Without the Superdelegates, Bernie was never far behind Hillary in terms of delegates. And since the media reported the super delegates who had at this point only pledged to vote for Hillary as if they were obligated to vote for her as if they were normal delegates, this probably demoralized Bernie voters.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    They rigged the primary for Hillary, an action they were later forced to admit to and defend in court.

    They also let Hillary seize campaign funds from down ballot races and screwed over half of their own candidates. It was ironically called the Clinton Victory Fund.

    Fuck 'centrists'. They're all fascists too.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    It's crazy they couldn't see the excitement Bernie was creating. The only one who was excited for Hillary was Hillary.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    I hate that the entire political apparatus in the US hinges on a few assholes' egos, but it's what we're stuck with

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Few assholes' egos... and hundreds of millions of voters who support them.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Way to create alliances and building bridges.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    There's no alliance to be made with the party that's decided it serves the enemy.

    Wall Street is the enemy. No party that takes corporate donations at all can claim not to be serving the enemy.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I'm sure that will defeat the next trump.

    Enjoy.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    People advocating for doing the exact same thing that made Trump viable as a candidate to begin with don't get to use Trump as a cudgel. Fuck all the way off with that nonsense.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (8 children)

    So even without the superdelegates, Hillary was winning?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I've already outlined how the superdelegates could have given Hillary an advantage in winning regular primaries.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

    Yes, while admitting she was ahead anyway...

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    She wouldn't have been ahead without the superdelegates demoralizing the Bernie supporters.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    And of course you have proof of this, other than "trust me bro, the ref is to blame"?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    I've shown that she had a significant unfair advantage. Proving that she'd have won if things were fair is on you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Not really, I'm not the one complaining, not into proving a negative. She won fair and square, if you don't like prove it was manipulated and it altered the result. Burden of proof, and all that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    The notion of "superdelegates" is inherently anathema to democracy. Every vote counts equal. Introducing a class of people whose votes are worth more than others inherently corrupts the process. Since the superdelegates overwhelmingly supported Hillary, they gave her an unfair advantage.

    Hillary won against Bernie because the deck was stacked in her favor. Of course, she didn't have any sort of unfair advantage in the presidential election, where she proceeded to lose against Trump, of all people. Because she couldn't rig that contest.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    Anything other than direct vote is then invalid, since delegates, representatives, senators, are all contrary to what you want...

    PS: Hillary won against Bernie and the deck was stacked in her favor. Not because.

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