▲ 2188 ▼ Do this if a church tells you how to vote (midwest.social) submitted 3 years ago by Lanky_Pomegranate530@midwest.social to c/atheistmemes@lemmy.world 122 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (6 children) Just read John 18:36 to them. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (4 children) Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” I'm really not seeing the relevance here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) Christian leaders taking a hand in political affairs means they concerned about this world, which Jesus clearly said his kingdom was not a part of. In other words, their actions show they aren't a part of Jesus kingdom, but that of this world. Which... according to Matthew, currently belongs to Satan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Seems easy to poke holes in. "Yes we are in Satan's kingdom now, and we are doing this to wrest control of his kingdom from him." "Jesus was talking about the afterlife when he said that." "Of course we're concerned with this world, it is our Christian duty to do good no matter where we are." I'm an atheist so I'm not attempting to defend them here, but your argument isn't very strong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago No worries. The point is to make them think a bit... and fwiw, I grew up in a cult that believed hardcore in that before I managed to get out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Which version of the Kingdom of God? The Kingdom of God went from an earthly domain to a spiritual domain depending what gospels you read. Jesus taught about a temporal kingdom of god tied in with his apocalyptic views, which is more evident in the earlier gospels. By the time John was written, it's something else entirely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] havokdj@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll just read John 3:16 to you when Donald Trump gets indicted again for the millionth tome permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 years ago (4 children) Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” I'm really not seeing the relevance here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) Christian leaders taking a hand in political affairs means they concerned about this world, which Jesus clearly said his kingdom was not a part of. In other words, their actions show they aren't a part of Jesus kingdom, but that of this world. Which... according to Matthew, currently belongs to Satan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Seems easy to poke holes in. "Yes we are in Satan's kingdom now, and we are doing this to wrest control of his kingdom from him." "Jesus was talking about the afterlife when he said that." "Of course we're concerned with this world, it is our Christian duty to do good no matter where we are." I'm an atheist so I'm not attempting to defend them here, but your argument isn't very strong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago No worries. The point is to make them think a bit... and fwiw, I grew up in a cult that believed hardcore in that before I managed to get out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Which version of the Kingdom of God? The Kingdom of God went from an earthly domain to a spiritual domain depending what gospels you read. Jesus taught about a temporal kingdom of god tied in with his apocalyptic views, which is more evident in the earlier gospels. By the time John was written, it's something else entirely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) Christian leaders taking a hand in political affairs means they concerned about this world, which Jesus clearly said his kingdom was not a part of. In other words, their actions show they aren't a part of Jesus kingdom, but that of this world. Which... according to Matthew, currently belongs to Satan. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Seems easy to poke holes in. "Yes we are in Satan's kingdom now, and we are doing this to wrest control of his kingdom from him." "Jesus was talking about the afterlife when he said that." "Of course we're concerned with this world, it is our Christian duty to do good no matter where we are." I'm an atheist so I'm not attempting to defend them here, but your argument isn't very strong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago No worries. The point is to make them think a bit... and fwiw, I grew up in a cult that believed hardcore in that before I managed to get out. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Which version of the Kingdom of God? The Kingdom of God went from an earthly domain to a spiritual domain depending what gospels you read. Jesus taught about a temporal kingdom of god tied in with his apocalyptic views, which is more evident in the earlier gospels. By the time John was written, it's something else entirely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Seems easy to poke holes in. "Yes we are in Satan's kingdom now, and we are doing this to wrest control of his kingdom from him." "Jesus was talking about the afterlife when he said that." "Of course we're concerned with this world, it is our Christian duty to do good no matter where we are." I'm an atheist so I'm not attempting to defend them here, but your argument isn't very strong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago No worries. The point is to make them think a bit... and fwiw, I grew up in a cult that believed hardcore in that before I managed to get out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago No worries. The point is to make them think a bit... and fwiw, I grew up in a cult that believed hardcore in that before I managed to get out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Which version of the Kingdom of God? The Kingdom of God went from an earthly domain to a spiritual domain depending what gospels you read. Jesus taught about a temporal kingdom of god tied in with his apocalyptic views, which is more evident in the earlier gospels. By the time John was written, it's something else entirely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago They'll just read John 3:16 to you when Donald Trump gets indicted again for the millionth tome permalink fedilink source parent
