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“Voters are sick of the 2-party system. A new poll shows they’re open to big changes”
(electionlawblog.org)
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At this point, I’m hoping the left has wisened up and won’t fall for it anymore. History needs to stop repeating itself. Leftists get defeated because they can’t put aside their internal squabbles and form a united front.
I’m going to assume you think liberals are leftists?
No, but sometimes we have to form tenuous alliances to save our asses.
The DSA is never gaining traction in a fascist state where voting is actively manipulated and resistance is persecuted. Remember Franco crushed communist/leftist resistance and dominated Spain for 40 years. The republicans lost because of their internal squabbling. They couldn’t put their differences aside to further a show of strength.
We’re too little in number to make an impact right now. We need to keep getting DSA endorsed candidates in from the ground level. We need to primary candidates in such a way as to pull the party to the left. People need to see that socialist governance is rational. Mamdani is already paving the way.
What we cannot afford is a split. We should be building a united front of anyone left of center, not tearing it down. Getting into purity tests right now when we’re stuck in a burning house isn’t a winning strategy.
Well I’m here to tell you democrats are right of center at best. There is no party in the US, even the DSA, that would be considered left. Leftism begins at anti capitalism and they all support the status quo. Maybe instead of trying to pull leftists to the center, dems grow a spine and finally work with leftists.
Either we’re too big a voting bloc to ignore that we lose elections for dems because we don’t vote for them, or we’re such a small minority that dems don’t need us to win elections. But too many people, especially dems, like to blame us for when they lose but then refuse to cooperate and blame us that they didn’t win.
This whole “let’s not divide the left vote” is simply another uneducated talking point that does nothing but keep the pendulum swinging.
I think we’re trying to get to the same point here. By “pulling the party left,” it means defeating neoliberal candidates across the country and putting pressure on the left to grow a spine and acquiesce to anti-capitalists, aka entryism.
The material conditions are not right yet to go rogue and third-party people. We’re stuck in a two-party winner-take-all election system, unless we can get enough of our guys in to undo all of that. “We must walk the same streets as our oppressors,” to paraphrase.
I still have hope for the midterm elections. But electorialism may not be enough. Efforts need to be focused or organizing ground up for the general strike - the one that brings our civilization to a grinding halt and twists the arm of the capitalists so hard, that they’re forced into accommodation. Violent uprising is untenable in the USA. We’re technologically at a disadvantage with our lil’ rifles and handguns, without any combat training, to boot. No organization of violent resistance is happening under fascism without being brutally suppressed.
I’m for the great split. But the fascist hard-right party needs to be fractured and defeated first. They need to succumb to internal infighting before we do.
It's incredibly effective. If I were a campaign planner for the conservatives, getting the left to complain about their own candidates would be the low hanging fruit.
They're not going to learn.
After 2024 I don't think they ever will.