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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"unfortunately, there was just no way around it - they built their own weapons instead of buying them for billions each from Lockheed Martin, so the US government just had to murder hundreds of thousands of their civilians" said Spacemanspliff, ruefully taking a toke in memorial of the people who'd chosen to become victims of war crimes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The citizens of North Korea are already victims of crimes against humanity from their own regime. Not like the US is going to make it any worse for them.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just like the neutral-to-positive impact caused by some good ol' apple pie war crimes in Viet Nam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc...?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

under any coherent definition of "whataboutism", it would mean saying "any crimes against humanity committed by the North Korean government don't matter, because of [something an unrelated regime did]".

instead, I was responding to @[email protected], who was saying that the US invading North Korea wouldn't make the citizens' lives any worse – to which, talking about the history of how US invasions have affected people seems, I don't know, extremely relevant?

unless your comment is meant to be satire about how "whataboutism" is coming to mean "any criticism of the US government whatsoever", in which case it's a beautiful job 👏