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[-] BananaTrifleViolin@piefed.world 32 points 3 days ago

I am worried about Russia and it's behaviour, but I totally disagree with this narrative across Europe about spending more on defence.

We spend plenty as it is, we just need to reorganise things and integrate our armies and navies. So many resources can be freed up by removing pointless duplication and redundancy, without spending more money at the expense of other parts of our economies.

It won't happen because nationalism is a disease that infects almost all European countries.

[-] motogo@feddit.dk 10 points 3 days ago

We just have to invest in European defense systems and stop buying shit from US. Funding the fascists is unacceptable

[-] mattyroses@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago

Exactly.

OK, if you're worried about Russia, let's build a few more nukes and drone factories, and call it a day. Unless you're trying to project power (the US) or use weapons manufacture as a fill-in for failed industrial policy (the US and now Germany), that's all you need.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The Royal Navy currently has fewer than 20 vessels active, including coastal boats. This is not enough to secure fisheries, defend the home islands, interdict drugs before they arrive, and to keep open the global shipping lanes Britain relies on existentially. There is no redundancy. Until earlier this year, only one Type 45 destroyer was operable. It had to be removed from its duties and sent to defend Cyprus from air attack, but it took a week to get it ready to leave.

Since the 2010 Strategic Defence Review, British military capability has been gutted. A large investment is now needed to course correct. Many European powers fell into the same complacency trap at the same time.

Some countries, like Ireland, have never had adequate military capability. Ireland has no surface to air missiles - not even a radar tracking system - and no jet aircraft at all. Again, half of its 8 naval vessels are inactive. Russia has been camping out in or near Irish waters happily doing whatever they please. Considering the amount of European data going through Ireland, this is a concern and the Dail is considering whether they need a more comprehensive military.

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