▲ 497 ▼ how fucking good do you have to be at drag to make the mob stop being homophobic (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 month ago by Wren@lemmy.today [M] to c/BrandNewSentence@lemmy.today 82 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] SchadeMarmelade@feddit.org 20 points 1 month ago (2 children) The Mafia being more inclusive than most governments. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 month ago (1 child) No, it still tracks. Not inclusive until the thing in question personally affects someone in charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) Mafias are basically proto governments. They have all the functions of government but they’re less formalized and they struggle to achieve a monopoly on organized violence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) In some places, it was easier to go to the Mafia to get things like landlord disputes or infrastructure dealt with than it was to do things the legal way. A surprising amount of major US cities operated this way for a decent while at the turn of the century. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Technically it's still "easier" to threaten someone with violence than to jump through all the legal hoops to get something done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not even violence. Why do you think the Mob has always been in industries like construction and waste management? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Because it's easy to launder dirty money through those industries, money which is obtained through violence. The legitimate competition is also forced out through violence. Even if said competition isn't overtly threatened with violence, the crime orgs can undercut their prices thanks to blood money and lack of regulatory oversight, which also inevitably leads to violent working conditions. If any part of an enterprise is funded by violence, it all is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago IIRC, and I may not, the Sicilian Mafia is arguably a Roman rump state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 month ago (1 child) No, it still tracks. Not inclusive until the thing in question personally affects someone in charge. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children) Mafias are basically proto governments. They have all the functions of government but they’re less formalized and they struggle to achieve a monopoly on organized violence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) In some places, it was easier to go to the Mafia to get things like landlord disputes or infrastructure dealt with than it was to do things the legal way. A surprising amount of major US cities operated this way for a decent while at the turn of the century. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Technically it's still "easier" to threaten someone with violence than to jump through all the legal hoops to get something done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not even violence. Why do you think the Mob has always been in industries like construction and waste management? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Because it's easy to launder dirty money through those industries, money which is obtained through violence. The legitimate competition is also forced out through violence. Even if said competition isn't overtly threatened with violence, the crime orgs can undercut their prices thanks to blood money and lack of regulatory oversight, which also inevitably leads to violent working conditions. If any part of an enterprise is funded by violence, it all is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago IIRC, and I may not, the Sicilian Mafia is arguably a Roman rump state. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) In some places, it was easier to go to the Mafia to get things like landlord disputes or infrastructure dealt with than it was to do things the legal way. A surprising amount of major US cities operated this way for a decent while at the turn of the century. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Technically it's still "easier" to threaten someone with violence than to jump through all the legal hoops to get something done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not even violence. Why do you think the Mob has always been in industries like construction and waste management? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Because it's easy to launder dirty money through those industries, money which is obtained through violence. The legitimate competition is also forced out through violence. Even if said competition isn't overtly threatened with violence, the crime orgs can undercut their prices thanks to blood money and lack of regulatory oversight, which also inevitably leads to violent working conditions. If any part of an enterprise is funded by violence, it all is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Technically it's still "easier" to threaten someone with violence than to jump through all the legal hoops to get something done. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not even violence. Why do you think the Mob has always been in industries like construction and waste management? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Because it's easy to launder dirty money through those industries, money which is obtained through violence. The legitimate competition is also forced out through violence. Even if said competition isn't overtly threatened with violence, the crime orgs can undercut their prices thanks to blood money and lack of regulatory oversight, which also inevitably leads to violent working conditions. If any part of an enterprise is funded by violence, it all is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Not even violence. Why do you think the Mob has always been in industries like construction and waste management? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Because it's easy to launder dirty money through those industries, money which is obtained through violence. The legitimate competition is also forced out through violence. Even if said competition isn't overtly threatened with violence, the crime orgs can undercut their prices thanks to blood money and lack of regulatory oversight, which also inevitably leads to violent working conditions. If any part of an enterprise is funded by violence, it all is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 point 4 weeks ago Because it's easy to launder dirty money through those industries, money which is obtained through violence. The legitimate competition is also forced out through violence. Even if said competition isn't overtly threatened with violence, the crime orgs can undercut their prices thanks to blood money and lack of regulatory oversight, which also inevitably leads to violent working conditions. If any part of an enterprise is funded by violence, it all is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago IIRC, and I may not, the Sicilian Mafia is arguably a Roman rump state. permalink fedilink source parent