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[–] 12 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Israel funds NGOs in Spain pushing to give up control of Spanish autonomous zones Ceuta and Melilla.

based uhh israel??? khamenei-what

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago*

    The only people who care about keeping Ceuta and Melilla in Spain are crypto or not so crypto francoists and fash. Why reveal this now? To discredit the Spanish "left" antizionist position by showing that some of them are being paid by Israel?

    Baffling move.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Does Spanish possession of these territories threaten Africa or lead to exploitation of natural resources? They each have very small garrisons and arent protected by NATO. Since they've been European for longer than istanbul has been Turkish, I don't know what the justification Morocco has is.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    militarized settler outposts in africa isnt like a good thing either

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    If it was a civilian city with families of both religions going back generations and only maintained a garrison of 200 police and and soldiers, and was recognized by treaty with Morocco as Spanish would it still have to be returned to Morocco because it's on the wrong continent?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    im not denying the nuance of the issue. im just highlighting the fact that its a very real walled border between the EU and Morocco/North Africa and a legacy of Spanish colonialism. There are contradictions here.

    but what irks me most is that I feel like a lot of people are jumping on the issue on spain's side and making it is as if it is an anti-zionist/anti-US bulwark in the EU. making the issue all about israel, while there is an important component of Spain/EU v Algeria v Morocco geopolitical maneuvering related to energy/gas.

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