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I wasn't joking when I said I don't read any of the rules or guidelines on these sites but this is definitely slop since it's twitch right?

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[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago
[-] splendidsadiks@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago
[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

I've only heard the term in reference to malthusianism, e.g. "if they're going die, they'd better hurry up and do it, and decrease the surplus population"

[-] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

I got confused by this and ended up looking it up and found this.

In Africa, ILO estimates imply that the vast majority of workers in the world are “informal workers”, groups hustling to get by.

Is this a temporary thing? For Marx, surplus populations—what he termed the “industrial reserve army”—were a necessary component of capitalism, used to discipline the working class, depress wages, and maintain capitalist control. He feared that these surplus groups, existing outside the circuits of production, could be more susceptible to reactionary forces than to revolutionary ones. But overall, as he saw capitalism developed, he thought that it was the working class – not surplus populations – who had a world to win. Today, of course, most of Marx’s industrial proleteriat toils away in factories in Vietnam, Bangladesh and China. The problem however is that while the majority of workers in manufacturing are in the global south, the majority of workers in the world are not industrial workers. There exists what the late Mike Davis called the “outcast proletariat”, estimated to be around 1.5 Billion who are locked out of formal work. This isnt a temporary reserve army, but a permanent in our planet of slums.

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Political economists of the 19th century, like Malthus, feared that surplus populations could overwhelm the “respectable classes” and destabilise bourgeois society. Yet, they believed that as long as capital accumulated, these groups could be absorbed or at least pacified. Even socialists like Marx and Gramsci viewed mass unemployment and reactionary movements as temporary disruptions rather than permanent features. At the end of the day, the working class would unite and usher in an era of communism.

That optimism of working class triumph is now in crisis. In places like Haiti and Sudan, the state is disintegrating before our eyes. Paramilitaries—once non-state actors operating in the shadows—now openly challenge and, in some cases, supplant state authority. The “deterritorialization” of state violence, where control fragments into multiple competing forces, signals a breakdown in the state’s monopoly on violence. These were forces made up of surplus populations who were used by ruling elites to police other surplus populations. Now they want power themselves, and they have taken over entire cities.

Even in the Global North, the colonial boomerang has returned. The tools of control once used to manage colonial subjects are now being repurposed domestically. Militarised police forces, drones , surveillance systems, and carceral institutions don’t just target migrants, they target surplus populations within Western borders—immigrants, racial minorities, the surplus poor—mirroring colonial forms of governance.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 2 points 7 hours ago

Thanks, that's an interesting connection

[-] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

FWIW, the user you responded to had made a vaguepost referencing this thread. It seems splendidsadiks was passive-aggressively nudging you and other Hexbears into educating yourselves. While not the best way to do it, I get the impression splendidsadiks is frustrated from having tried to educate the userbase about anti-colonial theory over however much time and many accounts that was. Looking up maldevelopment was a good idea.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 1 points 5 hours ago

Good fucking lord it's annoying to be subtweeted about maldevelopment from someone so ridiculously immature and antisocial. If you're correct that this person was "nudging me to educate myself" by vagueposting instead of actually responding, all I can say in reply to them is: Jesus Christ, grow the fuck up and just talk to me like a human being instead of making weird insinuations and not actually saying anything to me directly. There are a ton of people I'd like to see banned from this fucking site but I literally just asked them a question. I have no idea what the ban was actually for and I certainly didn't report them (why would I?)

I would love to congratulate them on reading more Marx than me, but I fear their reading won't do them any good when they communicate like a petulant middle schooler.

I'm saying this to you of course because they are banned and I really think we shouldn't be doing this smol bean routine with such absurd antisociality.

[-] splendidsadiks@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago
[-] splendidsadiks@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Okay so you know how there is a magical zionism forcefield that causes armenian pahlavist iranian taiwanese japanese and south korean etcetera diaspora to hate black people and american indians

[-] splendidsadiks@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

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