103
Several US schools to install pepper-spraying drones to respond to school shootings (www.theguardian.com)
submitted 2 months ago by to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world
25 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/50034444

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[+] -8 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Not a fan of this, nor the glaring issue not being addressed directly, but a literal child being pepper sprayed will effectively stop them. They're not monsters, they're not superhuman, they're kids. Kids with guns, and very sensitive eyes and mucus membranes

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 7 child comments
    •
  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    No.

    It won’t.

    All pepper spray is, is an irritant. I personally train people on a monthly basis to work through it. I’ve personally seen people- including teenage kids- angry enough, or on something, or having just been exposed enough- that it does nothing.

    Pepper spray isn’t a restraint, or an incapacitant. Its sole use is in pissing people off, breaking up drunken crowds, or harassing protestors.

    Additionally, pepper spray is fundamentally designed to spread and contaminate everything in the vicinity- including those kids you care sooo much about.

    You know what does stop gun violence? Gun control and mental health programs.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
    •
  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Also, let me point out that flying a drone at an armed person is an excellent method of getting them to shoot at it. And while drones are rather hard to hit, schools tend to be full of kids who are much easier to hit.

    Also, who is going to operate this? And train on it? It's not easy to do this, so I'm assuming it'll be untrained morons fucking things up as usual.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Usually, the scheme is remotely stationed pilots at a facility, as long as the internet stays live, at least. One or two teams can cover most the nation.

    But yeah.

    Also they were “inspired” by Ukrainian drones- the ones that fly in and explode. Nobody is using pepper balls in wartime.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    If its not so bad, then why is your literal job to train people how to get through it? If it were easy to ignore,then people wouldn't need training, no?

    Its sole use is in pissing people off, breaking up drunken crowds, or harassing protestors.

    By temporarily blinding them and basically lighting their face on fire, obviously

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
    •
  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    If its not so bad, then why is your literal job to train people how to get through it? If it were easy to ignore, then people wouldn't need training, no?

    It’s not a fun experience, but again it will not stop a determined aggressor. It will deter someone who isn’t all that invested in whatever, but it won’t physically stop them.

    The training is literally just exposure training- we have them hit each other with OC spray and then the person who got sprayed gets to work through cuffing the other up. (They trade off.) the reason for this is two things-

    1. if you use OC or any other kind of spray, you will be exposed.
    2. it teaches you that *it isn’t that bad and you can still function.

    By temporarily blinding them and basically lighting their face on fire, obviously

    Incorrect. It doesn’t technically blind anyone. OC is a chemical agent that triggers thermal receptors to create a burning sensations. When it gets in the eye, the body responds by flushing the eye- making you cry.

    Again this is not something that incapacitates- any one who’s been exposed can and will remain a threat, same as anyone who is on something or just angry enough or desperate enough.

    This is why no cop in the world engages someone with lethal weapons with mace.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent