178
me when I hear the phrase "biological male(s)" πŸ˜– (thelemmy.club)
submitted 1 month ago by [M] to c/transmemes@lemmy.blahaj.zone
123 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe I just haven't seen it used by transphobes, but I don't see what's wrong with male socialized. The first time I heard it I thought it described how being raised male and peer pressured into acting male has fucked me up.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Seriously. I was in fact male socialized. Maybe I didn't take to it as well as I would have if I wasn't trans or neurodivergent, but I can't deny I was male socialized. I don't see that as some permanent Mark of Cain upon my soul. But I was absolutely male socialized.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I don't see that as some permanent Mark of Cain upon my soul.

    The bigots do. It's literally how they use the term, and why they deliberately erase any nuance from discussions on the subject, and it's also why you should be careful to not do the same

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I don't believe in living my life according to what bigots do.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    The bigots use the language to conflate trans women and cis men, to suggest that they're really the same. They use that language to shape the understanding of people who don't know any better. And those people absolutely impact your life, because it's those people voting for transphobia to "keep women safe" because they see you and I as being just as dangerous as cis men, because language like that shapes their understanding.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Bigots are gonna bigot. I don't see the use in ceding language to them.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
    •
  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    "male socialized" and "biological male" is bigoted language. You're not ceding something they made to hurt us.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
    •
  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    They used to hurt us. Anyone literate could come up with male socialization independently.

    Biological male I agree with you, it's a deceptive dog whistle. My biology made me Trans, which is to say female.

    I'm taking from this convo that regardless of how I describe my own journey, I should not apply the phrase to anyone else.

  • permalink
  • fedilink
  • source
  • parent