▲ 293 ▼ Wikimedia Will Not Voluntarily Recognize Union a Supermajority of Its Workers Want (www.404media.co) submitted 1 month ago by chobeat@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world 45 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Curiositymonger@reddthat.com 22 points 1 month ago (7 children) Wikimedia is a not for profit foundation. Not a corporation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] nychtelios@lemmy.sinistraverso.org 34 points 1 month ago This does not imply it is workers' owned or that it does not have ridiculously high payed managers. permalink fedilink source parent [–] village604@adultswim.fan 20 points 1 month ago Being a non-profit doesn't make the org structure immune to greed. I mean, Trump and kids had a non-profit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Carl@anarchist.nexus 19 points 1 month ago Not-for-profit is still a corporation, and the distinction simply means that they need to reinvest profits back into the company. A for-profit company can sit on massive amounts of stockpiled wealth, while a not-for-profit needs to find ways to reinvest that back into the company. To be clear, they can still sit on a lot of money. But all of their money needs to be earmarked for something, instead of just being a rainy day fund. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (2 children) Well if not because greed or shitty people in management, why oppose unionization? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago Greed or shitty people in management doesn't make something a corporation. There's plenty of anti-union efforts from the non-profit sector. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Control. Unions get a seat at the negotiating table. With a union things have to be done by mutual agreement, and the workers have recourse if things go wrong. Being a manager is much more powerful without a unionized workforce, finance notwithstanding. They often personally take unionization as an insult or betrayal, so they try and get revenge using the one thing available to them at that stage. With overwhelming support, it's only a matter of time before the vote passes and they are forced to recognize the union. This is not uncommon. Managers want to rule over people without restraint even in nonprofits. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago Open Ai at one point was one too… permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago Oh dude go look up it's business filings. Foundations are corporations permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) See: Susan G Coleman permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Komen permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nychtelios@lemmy.sinistraverso.org 34 points 1 month ago This does not imply it is workers' owned or that it does not have ridiculously high payed managers. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 20 points 1 month ago Being a non-profit doesn't make the org structure immune to greed. I mean, Trump and kids had a non-profit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Carl@anarchist.nexus 19 points 1 month ago Not-for-profit is still a corporation, and the distinction simply means that they need to reinvest profits back into the company. A for-profit company can sit on massive amounts of stockpiled wealth, while a not-for-profit needs to find ways to reinvest that back into the company. To be clear, they can still sit on a lot of money. But all of their money needs to be earmarked for something, instead of just being a rainy day fund. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (2 children) Well if not because greed or shitty people in management, why oppose unionization? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] communism@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago Greed or shitty people in management doesn't make something a corporation. There's plenty of anti-union efforts from the non-profit sector. permalink fedilink source parent [–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Control. Unions get a seat at the negotiating table. With a union things have to be done by mutual agreement, and the workers have recourse if things go wrong. Being a manager is much more powerful without a unionized workforce, finance notwithstanding. They often personally take unionization as an insult or betrayal, so they try and get revenge using the one thing available to them at that stage. With overwhelming support, it's only a matter of time before the vote passes and they are forced to recognize the union. This is not uncommon. Managers want to rule over people without restraint even in nonprofits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] communism@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago Greed or shitty people in management doesn't make something a corporation. There's plenty of anti-union efforts from the non-profit sector. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago Control. Unions get a seat at the negotiating table. With a union things have to be done by mutual agreement, and the workers have recourse if things go wrong. Being a manager is much more powerful without a unionized workforce, finance notwithstanding. They often personally take unionization as an insult or betrayal, so they try and get revenge using the one thing available to them at that stage. With overwhelming support, it's only a matter of time before the vote passes and they are forced to recognize the union. This is not uncommon. Managers want to rule over people without restraint even in nonprofits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago Open Ai at one point was one too… permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago Oh dude go look up it's business filings. Foundations are corporations permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) See: Susan G Coleman permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Komen permalink fedilink source parent