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submitted 15 hours ago by culpritus@hexbear.net to c/movies@hexbear.net

I wasn't expecting much from SNW final season, but this episode just does some stuff that seemed very uncharacteristic for Star Trek in my recollection (I've not watch TOS, so maybe there's something similar in there). Anyone else seen it and had weird vibes about it?

Trying to avoid spoilers, but will probably get into spoilers in the comments if anyone else has seen it too. About to restart/watch DS9 with my partner (trying to get them into it), so I might not reply for a bit).

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[-] Esoteir@hexbear.net 14 points 13 hours ago

SNW has been pretty libby and meh for me from the get go

off the top of my head: the first season's Omelas episode ending with Pike shrugging and going "yeah nah they can keep torturing kids to death this metaphor for the highest stage of capitalism is p rad i can't refute this", them suddenly making Pike Christian at the start of S3, and then the final episode of S3 revealing that genuine, literal ontological evil exists in star trek's setting

[-] Piltdowntown@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Star Trek as a whole has had the potential for extreme libbitude from the start, don't kid yourself. People love to point to the "conservative Trek fan" is the go to example of someone missing the point of media entirely, but frankly, it's not an entirely unreasonable interpretation for someone to arrive at. Starfleet is a heavily America-coded intergalactic military force that is portrayed as the ultimate good, going out and doing endless "peacekeeping missions" that inevitably end up with armed conflict. Humanity literally made it to the "golden enlightenment" era because one Great Man made a warp drive all on his lonesome and met aliens. There's even this undercurrent that Starfleet is basically inevitable, so you don't need to put effort into changing anything, everything will sort itself out in due time so you don't have to inconvenience yourself or make any sacrifices on a people-wide scale about it. It's lib.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 9 points 12 hours ago

Yes, I'm mostly just watching it to see how far gone the show can get at this point. They've repeatedly fumbled things terribly when trying to do anything at all meaningful. And even when they are doing some indulgent sillyness, they still manage to create some really dark implications quite often.

I'm starting to wonder if the announcement of the Section 31 movie was when anyone with a modicum of Trek Ethics (tm) basically stopped caring at all.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

section 31 is such a libass concept, like oh yeah we need to add a ton of fascist grit and leather trenchcoats to our hopefuel, cant just let commies have fun

[-] someone@hexbear.net 9 points 11 hours ago

I have so much beef with DS9 post-season-three.

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