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US accuses American of allegedly wiping his phone using a 'duress' password during border search (techcrunch.com)
submitted 2 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/49853131

Feels to me like GrapheneOS did exactly what it should, passing the US border test with flying colours!

Funny part about this lawsuit: “With a little planning ahead of time, you can always download the data you need once you get to where you’re going,”

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[–] 24 points 2 months ago (8 children)

What? US police can ask you for the phone password? No way! That is 100% police state. Stalin was amateur comparing to present day USA.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Yes US citizens cannot be compelled to provide a password, but biometrics such as fingerprint or Face ID can. Disable these when crossing into the US.

    Non citizens can be detained and rejected for not providing access to a device via password. Best to bring a second device if you must enter. Depressing times.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Non citizens can be detained and rejected for not providing access to a device via password. Best to bring a second device if you must enter. Depressing times.

    Or simply do not go to the US and let them to rot in their own madness

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    I don't believe you can be compelled to provide a password. That does after all (at the very least) constitute speech. And freedom of speech is also freedom of non-speech, they can't make you say something.

    They will however try to make you do that... In many situations authorities are allowed to lie to you. So that's sucks. They can tell you that you're required to unlock your phone, you just have to know that your not actually.

    Also they can't make you say anything, but they can make you do things, like for instance "put your finger here" or "look into this camera", which is why biometric unlock is unsafe around cops.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    There's that one guy who is being held in contempt of the court (to be clear this is not the police asking for his password, but a judge in a court of law) because he won't give a password to decrypt a hard drive.

    They believe it is highly likely that the drive contains sexually explicit material of children, which is why he's being held in prison until he gives up the password.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I would want to catch pedophiles too, but I seriously don't believe a damn thing any branch of this government says about anyone.

    For all I know he has a video of trumps night out at Epstein island and that's why they want the password to destroy it.

    Obviously probably not but still, I'm supposed to just take the scouts honor of our unhonorable government that this guy totally has this on his hard drive even if they can't prove it?

    They could say this about any of us at any time for any devices password we won't give them.

    I don't agree with this precedent.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Oh yeah I think it's terrible this guy is imprisoned for not giving up a password, for something they can't prove. Like they shouldn't be able to detain someone indefinitely for an unproven crime. At some point they have to release them or it's guilty until proven innocent.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    he’s being held in prison until he gives up the password

    So basically he is in prison without proven guilty? That is exactly how "Communist" countries did: "you are probably guilty and just in case you will spend next 10-20 years in prison untill you admit your guilt". Now is "OK" for pedophiles, next will be OK too for political oposition.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    The important thing is this: can you still deliver lectures to the rest of the world on the Importance of Freedom Of Speech, and the fact that only Yanks have it because Elon can worship Hitler on the Internet?

    And the answer is, yes. Yes you can, and always will. So the actual reality isn't really important. Because all you actually learned from 1984 is that of the government tells you that you have freedom of speech, and also tells you that Eastasia and Eurasia don't, That's Good Enough For You and you're The Free-est People In The World.

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