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[–] 5 points 1 month ago (27 children)

Id argue they're probably trying to publish but getting hit with national security forced publication holds

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    getting hit with national security forced publication holds

    ....? that in itself would be news.

    also what the fuck is that supposed to be, really? afaik there's no national security concerns about an old man being dead.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    They don't have to explain the hold for quite some time. Unless something leaks we wouldn't know

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    the hold

    you keep referring to this like it's a thing. what is it?

    I can't find anything about it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's prior restraint, which is commonly mistaken to be illegal. It's not there's just a heavy presumption against it and since it's national security related the court hearings about the subject are usually closed and sealed but the discussion of the governments right to do it aren't.

    New York Times v US 1971

    There's also voluntary prior restraint where a publisher decides not to publish because the effects of publication don't outweigh getting shutdown under the burden of huge legal fees.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    ah. never heard prior restraint called 'the hold' before.

    TIL. I was aware about prior restraint; it's not that it's illegal, it just keeps being found wanting compared to the first amendment.

    but that all may depend on which supreme court it's going before.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (19 children)

    Real journalists wouldn't care.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    Jail time is no fun and has a big price tag unfortunately. Though no one is stopping you from being that change.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (17 children)

    Not my country, guy.

    "Jail time is no fun." Excellent, keep giving Americans a pass on their cowardice. Couldn't possibly put yourself at risk or sacrifice anything for your country and the FREEDOM you've been shitty about for a century or so.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    You don't seem to understand how this works. You try to publish they shut you down and put you in prison and your story still didn't see daylight you're just some dude in prison likely in solitary.

    You're not wrong but being shitty doesn't change the fact they would end up in jail and accomplish nothing, no one here seems to be giving Americans a pass we're just aware you have to pick your fights.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    This isn't the 1800s anymore, you post online and people WILL see it

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    No. If they know who you are you aren't posting. They control the pipeline, if they had no idea what was going to happen that might apply it just doesn't in this case.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    That's why there's never been any leaks. Totally nobody named Edward Snowden or anything like that, totally impossible to post shit....

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    You're lighting the fact snowden is exiled to avoid imprisonment for what's likely to be life and even that ignores the death threats and attempts.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    Irrelevant.

    You said there's never be leaks and that they'd stop them before we knew about them. I provided the easiest, not only, counter to that.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    No I said you don't hear about them or they're on the run or in prison.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    If they know who you are you aren’t posting. They control the pipeline, if they had no idea what was going to happen that might apply it just doesn’t in this case.

    Oh look, you saying what I said you said

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    You wouldn't be posting you'd be handing it off to someone which is also illegal. The story might get out but you'd be in prison.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Right. It's impossible to get information into the public's hands.

    Journalism exists for no more important reason than to be a check on powerful, dangerous people. Third degree burns are also “no fun,” but firefighters exist.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    No, it's impractical to do so without escaping the country or going to prison.

    Your example makes no sense, putting out fires is legal, nonpolitical, encouraged and as far as I'm aware there's no time place manner limitations on it either.

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