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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have actually discussed this paper at length before on this site, but I think I'll go for the simple punch. Wood was the director for Pfizer in their Animal Health division, which supplies the American meat industry with antibiotics and is actively creating a major crisis for global health (antibiotic resistant bacteria) for the sake of profit. Perhaps that is why he likes writing negatively about something that could slash his bottom line thinking-about-it

And being the director for a division this big and important in a pharma company means you are, very strictly, a shithead ghoul. If you look into him further, he has significant investments in anything beef-farming related.

http://lifesciencessummit.co.nz/speaker/paul-wood-ao/ more info on this guy, who is a literal ghoul

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes he is a shithead ghoul. But the people financing cultivated meat are also ghouls (effective altruists). I would also agree with what he's saying here, having worked in a cultivatedeat company. The problem is we're trying to grow single cells that don't want to grow by themselves. They have no immune system, and no hormone production. So you have to supply those things exogenously, and run it in a sterile process. The Humbird report mentioned in the article on The Counter linked above does a good job of explaining it, I also tried to explain it in my own article, which is a top level comment.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

More than 90% of the funding for lab grown meat comes from China not effective altruists. Similar to green energy, the effective altruists are just following in the wake of China

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I apologize, I was not actually aware of China's research into CM, my viewpoint thus far was mainly constrained to a western one.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the people financing cultivated meat are also ghouls

And the Communist Party of China thinking-about-it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I apologize, I was not actually aware of China's research into CM, my viewpoint thus far was mainly constrained to a western one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah you can get a relatively small plate of cultivated chicken in hong kong/shenzhen area for 15-25 usd.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Even when you have single cells that want to grow by themselves like yeast its very hard to mantain a sterile process. Thats why lager became the most common beer type. It alows you to run bio reactors at very cold temperatures to give the desired yeast time to outcompete the others. And thus you need to spend less efort mantaining a sterile situation.

I cant imagine how hard is to mantain a sterile enviorment with meat cells.