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Suggest a mocktail? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 month ago by [M] to c/cocktails@lemmy.world
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I am halfway through the Dry July and would like to celebrate but at a loss. I have the following ingredients, and define non alcoholic as non intoxicating not completely alcohol free, so splash of something ok.

N/A liqueurs:

Pathfinder

Seedlip Spice

Other:

Coffee

Coconut water, coconut cream

Tepache de piña

Enough pineapple to make a little pineapple juice

Strawberries

Tonic water

Yuzu lime tonic water

Ginger, lemon, lime, bitters

A pretty full bar, and a small amount of good red wine.

Considering just Pathfinder in tonic, that ends up like Chinola soda. But with all this I just feel like it could be more interesting!

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[–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What’s your go to cocktail? That will inform my suggestions.

That said, I love club soda and bitters. I’m also partial to juice+mixer. Have not been satisfied with any phony negronis yet… hard to get NA Campari.

Also if you like beer there are a wealth of NA options these days

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Lyre's makes an N.A. "Italian Orange" that is essentially a Campari substitute. I make my wife a low alc. negroni with that, Lyre N.A. gin, and real vermouth, or mix it with seltzer for something like a Campari spritz. She likes it. Seems reasonable to me from a few sips, but I use alcoholic versions in mine, so I haven't had it enough to have a strong opinion.

    I should also note that I'm not a stickler for "real" Campari, and have used various Italian red equivalents, like Select, Short Path Amaro, or my current favorite Forthave Red. They all vary a little from Campari in terms of level of bitterness, sweeteness, and spice but bring the same general flavor. And of course the particular vermouth and gin have a big effect on a negroni too...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Thanks for the tip I’ll look into it! How bitter is the Lyres?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I'm changing my answer to mild.

    I only have the Red to compare it to directly, which itself is a touch less bitter than Campari (more subtle, softer, more complex spice flavors). But the Lyre is less bitter than the Red, also sweeter, and it has just a touch of citrus acidity (which I don't recall from any alcoholic Campari type liquor). The Lyre is generally a little weak though it does give the general impression of the right sort of flavor.

    Though it occurs to me I'm tasting the Red at a warm room temp, and the Lyre cold (it says to refrigerate or use within 2 weeks... No alcohol to preserve it!) I'll leave some out and confirm again later. ... Nope, controlling for temperature doesn't change my assessment.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    BTW, assuming you like bitter, and are struggling with getting a satisfying level of bitterness in non or low alcohol cocktails, I've found Amaro Alta Verde useful for that, provided just a little alcohol is OK. It is 24% alcohol but it is very bitter, so just a little bit goes a long way. It can punch up the bitterness in a thing without otherwise affecting the flavor too much.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 month ago

    Thanks for this. Yes bitter I love it in fruity drinks for sure, don't really like many of the bittersweet drinks because my palate perceives them as hypersweet, syrupy like straight sugar.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Modified Paper Plane with 2x bourbon and some of the Aperol replaced by Campari is probably my favorite, or just about anything with pineapple and whiskey. Also love a good margarita. Any sour is pretty good.

    Favorite mocktail is by far the Friend Zone but it takes days to set up.

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