▲ 124 ▼ Trump Administration Announces Plan to ‘Dismantle’ the ICC (novaramedia.com) submitted 1 month ago by Quokka@quokk.au to c/world@quokk.au 17 comments fedilink hide all child comments The US state department has launched a plan to “disable” and “dismantle” the International Criminal Court (ICC), which includes pressuring other countries to join in and threatening to cut US assistance for those that don’t.
[+] amoogus@lemmy.ml -8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 month ago (2 children) Um, you do realize this is not because he had a problem with them investigating daddy Putin's war crimes?? The jackass just doesn't want his own crimes discussed publicly, and that makes him "right"? Fuck sake you ml types are fucking predictable. Fucking ridiculous... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) When was americans presidents hold accountable for any crimes? Most of them should have rot in jail for their rest of their lives permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago No argument there permalink fedilink source parent [+] amoogus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago (1 child) Oh, right, cause the literally thousands that have died from the canceling of USAID is progress. Just, what the fuck ever dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shani66@ani.social 10 points 1 month ago Remember it's better for America to be slightly less predominant than it is for thousands of people to not die! I'm not on .ml so i shouldn't have to put a sarcasm tag, right? Right? permalink fedilink source parent [–] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago Of all the possible comparisons you could have made to show neocolonialism is bad, you chose the one that saves millions of lives a year. This is like FOX News trying to show how socialism is bad by listing all the good things it does. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Russia is also colonial and benefits from the UN permalink fedilink source parent [–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (1 child) It's very much true that the ICC mostly targets countries in Africa and Asia. However, are you sure it's a problem with the court itself? It has little power in countries that aren't members or ones that actively sabotage it. More powerful countries stall investigations, postpone penalties (or just ignore them), and overall make the ICC's job near impossible. The ICC has no real authority or executive power to do anything about it. The best they can do is investigate crimes in countries too weak to undermine it. Perhaps it's racism or colonialism, and the court needs to be disbanded. Or perhaps it's merely fulfilling its obligations wherever it is actually able to, and would work a lot better if the powerful countries were gone or lost their influence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Unless they start writing arrest warrants for American and European leaders for their complicity in the Gaza genocide they are still nothing more than a farce. Especially American leaders. Kidnapping Maduro, blockading Cuba, there is soooo much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) The moment the ICC puts out an arrest warrant for any American official, they'll have all their IT systems disabled, probably some members arrested, and so on. The US government already ordered Microsoft to disable all accounts of some ICC officials, just for Netanyahu's arrest warrant. Perhaps it's better if they just continue persecuting criminals from Asia and Africa, instead of collapsing entirely. This way is far from fair or just, but at least some criminals get punished. As long as USA, Russia, and Israel exist, this is the best we can hope for, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago You just proved to point. permalink fedilink source parent [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) OH look, another one of those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago It is definitely true but the UN and it's enrity should be reformed not dismentled permalink fedilink source parent [–] hark@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Why is trump afraid of the court if it'd only be used against poor countries? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 month ago (2 children) Um, you do realize this is not because he had a problem with them investigating daddy Putin's war crimes?? The jackass just doesn't want his own crimes discussed publicly, and that makes him "right"? Fuck sake you ml types are fucking predictable. Fucking ridiculous... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) When was americans presidents hold accountable for any crimes? Most of them should have rot in jail for their rest of their lives permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago No argument there permalink fedilink source parent [+] amoogus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago (1 child) Oh, right, cause the literally thousands that have died from the canceling of USAID is progress. Just, what the fuck ever dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shani66@ani.social 10 points 1 month ago Remember it's better for America to be slightly less predominant than it is for thousands of people to not die! I'm not on .ml so i shouldn't have to put a sarcasm tag, right? Right? permalink fedilink source parent [–] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago Of all the possible comparisons you could have made to show neocolonialism is bad, you chose the one that saves millions of lives a year. This is like FOX News trying to show how socialism is bad by listing all the good things it does. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Russia is also colonial and benefits from the UN permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) When was americans presidents hold accountable for any crimes? Most of them should have rot in jail for their rest of their lives permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago No argument there permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago No argument there permalink fedilink source parent
[+] amoogus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago (1 child) Oh, right, cause the literally thousands that have died from the canceling of USAID is progress. Just, what the fuck ever dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shani66@ani.social 10 points 1 month ago Remember it's better for America to be slightly less predominant than it is for thousands of people to not die! I'm not on .ml so i shouldn't have to put a sarcasm tag, right? Right? permalink fedilink source parent [–] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago Of all the possible comparisons you could have made to show neocolonialism is bad, you chose the one that saves millions of lives a year. This is like FOX News trying to show how socialism is bad by listing all the good things it does. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Russia is also colonial and benefits from the UN permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 month ago (1 child) Oh, right, cause the literally thousands that have died from the canceling of USAID is progress. Just, what the fuck ever dude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shani66@ani.social 10 points 1 month ago Remember it's better for America to be slightly less predominant than it is for thousands of people to not die! I'm not on .ml so i shouldn't have to put a sarcasm tag, right? Right? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shani66@ani.social 10 points 1 month ago Remember it's better for America to be slightly less predominant than it is for thousands of people to not die! I'm not on .ml so i shouldn't have to put a sarcasm tag, right? Right? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago Of all the possible comparisons you could have made to show neocolonialism is bad, you chose the one that saves millions of lives a year. This is like FOX News trying to show how socialism is bad by listing all the good things it does. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago Russia is also colonial and benefits from the UN permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (1 child) It's very much true that the ICC mostly targets countries in Africa and Asia. However, are you sure it's a problem with the court itself? It has little power in countries that aren't members or ones that actively sabotage it. More powerful countries stall investigations, postpone penalties (or just ignore them), and overall make the ICC's job near impossible. The ICC has no real authority or executive power to do anything about it. The best they can do is investigate crimes in countries too weak to undermine it. Perhaps it's racism or colonialism, and the court needs to be disbanded. Or perhaps it's merely fulfilling its obligations wherever it is actually able to, and would work a lot better if the powerful countries were gone or lost their influence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Unless they start writing arrest warrants for American and European leaders for their complicity in the Gaza genocide they are still nothing more than a farce. Especially American leaders. Kidnapping Maduro, blockading Cuba, there is soooo much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) The moment the ICC puts out an arrest warrant for any American official, they'll have all their IT systems disabled, probably some members arrested, and so on. The US government already ordered Microsoft to disable all accounts of some ICC officials, just for Netanyahu's arrest warrant. Perhaps it's better if they just continue persecuting criminals from Asia and Africa, instead of collapsing entirely. This way is far from fair or just, but at least some criminals get punished. As long as USA, Russia, and Israel exist, this is the best we can hope for, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago You just proved to point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) Unless they start writing arrest warrants for American and European leaders for their complicity in the Gaza genocide they are still nothing more than a farce. Especially American leaders. Kidnapping Maduro, blockading Cuba, there is soooo much. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) The moment the ICC puts out an arrest warrant for any American official, they'll have all their IT systems disabled, probably some members arrested, and so on. The US government already ordered Microsoft to disable all accounts of some ICC officials, just for Netanyahu's arrest warrant. Perhaps it's better if they just continue persecuting criminals from Asia and Africa, instead of collapsing entirely. This way is far from fair or just, but at least some criminals get punished. As long as USA, Russia, and Israel exist, this is the best we can hope for, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago You just proved to point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) The moment the ICC puts out an arrest warrant for any American official, they'll have all their IT systems disabled, probably some members arrested, and so on. The US government already ordered Microsoft to disable all accounts of some ICC officials, just for Netanyahu's arrest warrant. Perhaps it's better if they just continue persecuting criminals from Asia and Africa, instead of collapsing entirely. This way is far from fair or just, but at least some criminals get punished. As long as USA, Russia, and Israel exist, this is the best we can hope for, unfortunately. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago You just proved to point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago You just proved to point. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) OH look, another one of those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago It is definitely true but the UN and it's enrity should be reformed not dismentled permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 month ago It is definitely true but the UN and it's enrity should be reformed not dismentled permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hark@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago Why is trump afraid of the court if it'd only be used against poor countries? permalink fedilink source parent