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It's been fun, but I don't have another migration left in me. (thelemmy.club)
submitted 2 months ago by to c/fedimemes@feddit.uk
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Some will cheer, some will be mildly disappointed. But I'm out, I think.

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[–] 31 points 2 months ago (9 children)

PieFed is another federated threaded forum software like Lemmy, though just within the last week greatly surprised people by switching gears to be less like traditional social media that welcomes lots of engagement. The changes were not announced in advance, not something that can be opted out of (except by migration to another instance, which is what PugJesus is saying he will not consider doing) and are quite unpopular overall.

None of THAT background stuff will affect you on Lemmy.World, except that you'll see a quieter network overall, especially now that PugJesus is leaving us.

Overall it is perhaps best to use the Threadiverse not as your sole or possibly even primary social media but as one among several, as this one is struggling (post).

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  • [+] -23 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    None of THAT background stuff will affect you on Lemmy.World, except that you’ll see a quieter network overall, especially now that PugJesus is leaving us.

    Honestly not having "all" flooded with memes might leave room for some actual conversations to breathe but also chasing karma on the fediverse is wild

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    True... but why would restricting daily votes deal at all with that issue?

    On PieFed I've used the Topic Areas to segregate things like News & Politics, and most meme communities, away from my Subscribed feed. Each Topic is but a click away where I can see all of it (regardless of community subscription or not), and I kid you not, actual POETRY manages to make it into my feed!!

    So there are other ways to separate memes from other content. Like paid Lemmy 3rd-party apps, or Blaze would use an army of alts, one for each topic area that he wanted to see that day.

    Even worse, if someone like PugJesus would start off each day by voting for popular content like memes and news, and only then switch to niche communities to help then grow (a common enough workflow, than I often follow myself as well?), then chopping off votes after the quota is reached (currently: 240 per day iirc) would have the opposite effect than you say: memes and news would receive a much greater proportion of the votes while the tiny niche communities would receive less.

    I absolutely do not discount the desire to have better sorting capabilities - on THAT I agree with you 100% that it would be nice to reach THAT goal - but the current implementation won't get you there, plus will have many negative consequences besides. Such as reduced funding support for PieFed overall, and more people choosing to use Lemmy or other alternatives.

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  • [+] -19 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I didn't say anything about votes, you said it would be "quieter" without PugJesus reposting memes, but I think "quiet" is in the ear of the beholder. Some of us prefer quality to artificial activity.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Oh yes for sure - beauty is most definitely in the eye of the beholder. Some people might prefer to spin up an instance and remove all votes from it, preferring to browse solely by community and/or All (related: some might disable only downvotes but retain upvotes). Other people might prefer to disable even comments, preferring to use the Threadiverse as an RSS reader, link aggregator, without any of the pesky social interaction - that's not what I personally want but if someone wants that... then fine, go for it?

    "Quieter" there was a modifier for the previous word "affect" - i.e., how the downstream effects would impact the person being replied to there, not a value judgement but an explanation of noticeable changes.

    I'm perfectly fine with an instance admin tuning their personal instance however they choose - e.g. blocking the major posters in memes and news communities, if they want a lower internet bill and to sort through content how they wish.

    That said, this change in the PieFed software was VERY unexpected, not announced almost at all, not transparent at all, and rolled out by default to impact all upgrades to the v1.7 codebase. PieFed.social is NOT someone's personal instance - it is the very flagship instance of the entire PieFed subset of the Threadiverse. So some level of prior expectations are to be expected to come into play in regards to what settings it will choose to use - especially if those are subject to change with little to no notice, and with such major impacts upon the people who have chosen to use it?

    PugJesus has donated an IMMENSE amount of time to enhance the Threadiverse, and now not only him but many of us are losing hope in not only PieFed but in this entire Threadiverse experiment overall.

    This is quite impactful!

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  • [+] -15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    what you call enhance i call low effort slop that turns away new users BUT to each their own i guess

    copying a jpg and posting it is not a high effort activity I'm sorry it just drowns out other types of content

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    That's the spirit!

    Some people want USA politics, others want to go a single fucking minute without having it shoved into our faces, and everywhere in-between.

    It's been so nice that the Threadiverse provides a platform where we can all get along. Though huge major cracks are tearing it apart.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    It's not about karma, really. There are other reasons to upvote things. Over on Mastodon/the twitterlike side of fedi, stars/"likes" don't do /anything/ but tell the OP you liked their post, and are used widely as a social thing. (There is a total star count on posts, but stars don't get federated to other servers besides the poster's, so it's only accurate if you actually go to the poster's instance and look there.)

    -- Frost

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