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[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

There we go again with the bothsidism bullshit

[-] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 18 points 1 day ago

Yeah there is an element of that, but I don't think it's entirely controversial to say that it all gets old very quickly.

Critical thinking takes work and research, which is fine for a specific topic or when you're reading something with existing context like something historic... but keeping on top of something where all the belligerents are pushing out narrative on a daily basis becomes fucking soul-destroying to fact-check and evaluate.

I don't think this is a "both sides" fallacy. It's just being super fed up of the constant shitslinging and media manipulation.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It is alwqys a bothside fallacy when you you equate the agressed and aggresor

Remind me again which of Israel, Iran and the US are aggressor and agressed ?

Seems to me both terms apply to all 3, at which point OP seems to me to be utterly correct. All 3 are bad.

I would care less if they werent holding the world economy to ransom

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Israel and the usa stsrted the war they are the agressor, iran did not start the war they are the agressed. Your bullshit rhetoric is like talking sbout how france was bad in thr colonies thry colonized when talking anout nazi germany occupation of France

Holding the world economy hostage is the only way iran has for his civiliztion to not be destroyed and survival of the stste itself. I am not a selfish person who only thing about my self while my country support the war of gression

[-] usernameunnecessary@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was merely talking about trustworthiness, not about anything else. But you are right, there is no comparison between the levels of untrustworthiness of the two aggressors in the sentence versus the defending country. Iran has their own share of issues but there's no doubt as to who the bullies are in this specific case.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

With the rhetoric of none are untrustworthy. It easy to blame both for the lack of solution which is a problem

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Okay but they're not doing that so why bring that up?

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think his framing allow the idea that iran is also an obstacle to peace while it only want return of the stolen assets and sanction relief and control of the straight so the usa can't backtrack from the deal

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