▲ 1030 ▼ Elon's got Putin's back. (sh.itjust.works) submitted 3 years ago by mrneil@sh.itjust.works to c/enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world 232 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 210 points 3 years ago (2 children) Uber wealthy private citizens able to control the path of wars in countries they don’t live in. That’s some dystopian shit. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BeefDaddySupreme@lemmy.world 49 points 3 years ago (3 children) It's always been that way though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AJT@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago Almost exclusively, in fact. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 years ago Not to this degree. Musk is the richest person ever to have lived. He’s got more money than most nations on the planet have ever had, comparatively. His wealth, power, and influence are obscene. His wealth is currently growing at $14.75 million per hour. He could spend a million dollars every day for a thousand years and still be the richest person on earth. I don’t think many people can fathom how extreme his wealth hoarding actually is. It’s literally mind-boggling. He could single-handedly solve the hunger crisis planet-wide and make a huge impact on the climate crisis, but instead he uses his money to fellate himself, take credit for others’ work, and ruin things. In the past, kings and barons have only wished to have the money and power he wields, and this is what he’s doing with it. It’s absolutely shameful. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) nah, it's a relatively new thing, like only found after ww2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mob@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think so. For example, isn't it believed that Rothschild was a large contributing factor to The War of 1812? I'd imagine a lot of those "old money" families dabbled throughout history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago isn’t it believed that Rothschild was a large contributing factor to The War of 1812? By anti-Semitic conspiracy circles, yes. By anyone who has looked into these claims without being a conspiracy nut, no. permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Quite a few supporters for independence in America's revolutionary war against England were quite wealthy, and stood to make very good money with an independent US. Hancock was one of them. I don't know if I'd say that was the entire reason for the war of independence, but I think it was substantial enough that we can consider it an example in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no, it is not, just because there was an economic incentive for some people during the revolution doesn't mean that it is comparable, if you want comparable, imagine if the of the richest Italians had replaced many of the American cannons with wooden fakes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think it's somewhat comparable since the economic incentive was heavily skewed towards leadership vs the common person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago no, because the leadership actually did the fighting, unlike musk who just shut off service when daddy Putin asked him to permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago It's important to note that the company, and the technology being used was not created by him, too. He just bought it... And now he's doing evil things with it while he pretends he's some sort of anti-war hero. Like... Congratulations, douchebag, you helped a defend an evil superpower during their active, unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation involving countless war crimes and crimes against humanity. What a fuckin' hero you are, Elon. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeefDaddySupreme@lemmy.world 49 points 3 years ago (3 children) It's always been that way though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] AJT@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago Almost exclusively, in fact. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 years ago Not to this degree. Musk is the richest person ever to have lived. He’s got more money than most nations on the planet have ever had, comparatively. His wealth, power, and influence are obscene. His wealth is currently growing at $14.75 million per hour. He could spend a million dollars every day for a thousand years and still be the richest person on earth. I don’t think many people can fathom how extreme his wealth hoarding actually is. It’s literally mind-boggling. He could single-handedly solve the hunger crisis planet-wide and make a huge impact on the climate crisis, but instead he uses his money to fellate himself, take credit for others’ work, and ruin things. In the past, kings and barons have only wished to have the money and power he wields, and this is what he’s doing with it. It’s absolutely shameful. permalink fedilink source parent [–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) nah, it's a relatively new thing, like only found after ww2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mob@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think so. For example, isn't it believed that Rothschild was a large contributing factor to The War of 1812? I'd imagine a lot of those "old money" families dabbled throughout history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago isn’t it believed that Rothschild was a large contributing factor to The War of 1812? By anti-Semitic conspiracy circles, yes. By anyone who has looked into these claims without being a conspiracy nut, no. permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Quite a few supporters for independence in America's revolutionary war against England were quite wealthy, and stood to make very good money with an independent US. Hancock was one of them. I don't know if I'd say that was the entire reason for the war of independence, but I think it was substantial enough that we can consider it an example in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no, it is not, just because there was an economic incentive for some people during the revolution doesn't mean that it is comparable, if you want comparable, imagine if the of the richest Italians had replaced many of the American cannons with wooden fakes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think it's somewhat comparable since the economic incentive was heavily skewed towards leadership vs the common person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago no, because the leadership actually did the fighting, unlike musk who just shut off service when daddy Putin asked him to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AJT@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago Almost exclusively, in fact. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 years ago Not to this degree. Musk is the richest person ever to have lived. He’s got more money than most nations on the planet have ever had, comparatively. His wealth, power, and influence are obscene. His wealth is currently growing at $14.75 million per hour. He could spend a million dollars every day for a thousand years and still be the richest person on earth. I don’t think many people can fathom how extreme his wealth hoarding actually is. It’s literally mind-boggling. He could single-handedly solve the hunger crisis planet-wide and make a huge impact on the climate crisis, but instead he uses his money to fellate himself, take credit for others’ work, and ruin things. In the past, kings and barons have only wished to have the money and power he wields, and this is what he’s doing with it. It’s absolutely shameful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (2 children) nah, it's a relatively new thing, like only found after ww2. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] mob@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think so. For example, isn't it believed that Rothschild was a large contributing factor to The War of 1812? I'd imagine a lot of those "old money" families dabbled throughout history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago isn’t it believed that Rothschild was a large contributing factor to The War of 1812? By anti-Semitic conspiracy circles, yes. By anyone who has looked into these claims without being a conspiracy nut, no. permalink fedilink source parent [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Quite a few supporters for independence in America's revolutionary war against England were quite wealthy, and stood to make very good money with an independent US. Hancock was one of them. I don't know if I'd say that was the entire reason for the war of independence, but I think it was substantial enough that we can consider it an example in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no, it is not, just because there was an economic incentive for some people during the revolution doesn't mean that it is comparable, if you want comparable, imagine if the of the richest Italians had replaced many of the American cannons with wooden fakes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think it's somewhat comparable since the economic incentive was heavily skewed towards leadership vs the common person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago no, because the leadership actually did the fighting, unlike musk who just shut off service when daddy Putin asked him to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mob@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think so. For example, isn't it believed that Rothschild was a large contributing factor to The War of 1812? I'd imagine a lot of those "old money" families dabbled throughout history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago isn’t it believed that Rothschild was a large contributing factor to The War of 1812? By anti-Semitic conspiracy circles, yes. By anyone who has looked into these claims without being a conspiracy nut, no. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago isn’t it believed that Rothschild was a large contributing factor to The War of 1812? By anti-Semitic conspiracy circles, yes. By anyone who has looked into these claims without being a conspiracy nut, no. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Quite a few supporters for independence in America's revolutionary war against England were quite wealthy, and stood to make very good money with an independent US. Hancock was one of them. I don't know if I'd say that was the entire reason for the war of independence, but I think it was substantial enough that we can consider it an example in this case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no, it is not, just because there was an economic incentive for some people during the revolution doesn't mean that it is comparable, if you want comparable, imagine if the of the richest Italians had replaced many of the American cannons with wooden fakes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think it's somewhat comparable since the economic incentive was heavily skewed towards leadership vs the common person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago no, because the leadership actually did the fighting, unlike musk who just shut off service when daddy Putin asked him to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) no, it is not, just because there was an economic incentive for some people during the revolution doesn't mean that it is comparable, if you want comparable, imagine if the of the richest Italians had replaced many of the American cannons with wooden fakes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think it's somewhat comparable since the economic incentive was heavily skewed towards leadership vs the common person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago no, because the leadership actually did the fighting, unlike musk who just shut off service when daddy Putin asked him to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) I think it's somewhat comparable since the economic incentive was heavily skewed towards leadership vs the common person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago no, because the leadership actually did the fighting, unlike musk who just shut off service when daddy Putin asked him to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago no, because the leadership actually did the fighting, unlike musk who just shut off service when daddy Putin asked him to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago It's important to note that the company, and the technology being used was not created by him, too. He just bought it... And now he's doing evil things with it while he pretends he's some sort of anti-war hero. Like... Congratulations, douchebag, you helped a defend an evil superpower during their active, unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation involving countless war crimes and crimes against humanity. What a fuckin' hero you are, Elon. permalink fedilink source parent
