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Carney’s vision of Canada’s sovereignty is quickly blurring (rabble.ca)
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[–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

the difference is that the liberals will still keep voting Liberal, whereas the Conservatives will not vote at all.

No idea where you're pulling this from. All the election data I look at shows a very consistent PC/Reform party of 30% of the popular vote. Liberals typically hit a low of 20-30% as well, through the Mulroney days. Even when both parties were 'destroyed' (2014 Ontario Provincial Liberals hit 19% popular vote, PCs hit 16% in '93 but rebounded to 19% in '97), they retained nearly identical as percentage of popular votes. Please show me elections years with significant drop in conservative or NDP voting numbers due to scandal.

I've shown you an example of the liberal party voters doing exactly what you claim they're not and you're glossing over. I'm happy to continue the conversation, but I need you to start showing more than your own internal biases and opinions. Show me dates, facts, and numbers to back up what you're saying.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Simple facts and I did give examples. And the PC and reform party are not the same thing you can't mash them together and pretend it's an equivalency. That's like pretending that if voters vote for the NDP it's proof that they still vote for the liberals, that's just not a real thing

    And as I mentioned with your example. They accepted corruption for numerous election Cycles with no penalty and voted them out for different reasons so no, it's not an example.

    While it is arguably true that some NDP went to the liberals because of trump it is also true that a large number of NDP have expressed that they did not vote for their party this federal election because they felt that sing was corrupt. There are numerous examples of the conservatives doing that including the death of the PC as well as things like the death of the social credit party in British Columbia

    What role voters are just not the same. And it's not like I'm pretending that the right wing is some group of angels or something, I'm giving every bit as much credit to the farther left NDP voters.

    But the liberals have shown again and again that they will accept any amount of corruption and still vote for their party without punishing it substantial. They went psycho after cycle with justin, they're continuing to support carney despite the fact that they're all ready scandals, we see it provincially as well when there is a liberal party that they will allow numerous election Cycles with massive corruption and do nothing. They just don't have the same intolerance for corruption as everyone else and that is a real problem

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