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What does 4th July mean to you?
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Bullshit flagwaving, being proud of things you have nothing to do with, being proud of an idea and not of what is actually going on or what happened to get there
It’s quite common for folks to say they believe in “the promise of America” with the failure to achieve said promise left as an exercise for the reader.
Despite all the bullshit happening now, I still believe the promise is worth fighting for and I’m personally not ready to give up on it.
The thing is, it's not just the bullshit that's happening now, the bullshit has been happening all along, they were just much better at being covert or weren't quite as blatant with their greed. I don't know about that, everything I was taught in school about this country turned out to be complete crap, and the people who are supposed to be angry at the kind of tyranny going on right now, who were waving don't tread on me flags my whole life, are the ones most vehemently supporting it. So I dunno what we got left. I have hope left in people, not ideas of nations blurred by history and endless retellings of how it came to be.
It’s true - but more people like us, who initially trusted what we were taught, are finding out the truth all the time.
And I see voices that have been much more marginalized than me “believe in the promise” after being much more negatively affected by the truth than me.
If they still believe in it, how can my barely marginalized ass give up on it? That’s essentially giving up on their struggle and their determination. I cannot turn my back on the sons and daughters of enslaved, LGBTQ+, indigenous and on and on folks.