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Rust trojan horse (thelemmy.club)

BTW I think some anti-Rust people are more annoying than the worst Rust evangelists - seen some of them calling people not using Rust as "murderers", because "memory leakage can kill at the right time" - but that's due to them being evangelists to right-wing politics.

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[-] jjj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago

Rust is all about changing internal state. It even has structures (Cell and others) that specifically allow you to change internal state in otherwise immutable data structures. You should probably learn rust properly before making such claims about it.

Every foreign language is unreadable until it is not foreign. Acquiring programmer socks helps, too.

[-] Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 3 points 21 hours ago

Yes, but wat kind of programming socks? Thigh highs, with white, pink and blue stripes?

[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Changeable state in an immutable data type? Is... Is that a good idea?

I don't know Rust, but I can tell that the criticism in these image is mostly bullshit. But changing immutable state sounds like a bad idea to me. Is there something I'm missing?

[-] jjj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago

Rust is often treated like it has a split between mutable and immutable state, but it's really a split between unique and shared state. Shared state can be mutated if certain invariants are held, which types that provide "interior mutability" as its called enforce.

https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/interior-mutability.html

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

"We spent two decades making sure the compiler will never produce memory-unsafe code. It requires a lot of nigh-illegible boilerplate code to even compile and adds massive cognitive load, but the effort will be worth it.

Anyway, here's a type whose only purpose is to disable all of that shit."

[-] jjj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 14 hours ago

Cell doesn't disable memory safety, though? It comes with additional restrictions such as being unable to share between threads (statically enforced) obviously, it's not an unsafe feature. You also can't read from it unless your type can be bitwise copied, etc.

Interior mutability is mostly for making immutable interfaces that for some reason or another benefit from storing a bit of mutable state, such as for lazy evaluation. It's also used for cross thread communication in some cases since you have to use shared (immutable) references to share things between threads.

It requires a lot of nigh-illegible boilerplate code to even compile

this is the entire source code for an app that performs a rather complex function, note the absence of boilerplatefrom https://codeberg.org/Mycellf/wordjoin

use std::{
    fs::File,
    io::{self, BufRead, BufReader, Read, Write},
    path::PathBuf,
};

use clap::{Parser, ValueEnum};
use icu_segmenter::{
    LineSegmenter, LineSegmenterBorrowed,
    options::{LineBreakOptions, LineBreakStrictness, LineBreakWordOption},
};

/// Insert utf-8 word joiners (U+2060) to prevent text from wrapping outside of whitespace characters.
#[derive(Parser)]
struct Args {
    /// Format and concatenate each file in stead of stdin
    file_paths: Vec<PathBuf>,

    /// Read stdin by line instead of all at once
    /// (sometimes worse for interactive use; files are always read by line)
    #[clap(short = 'l', long)]
    by_line: bool,

    /// See https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#line-break-property
    #[clap(short, long, default_value = "strict")]
    strictness: LineBreakStrictnessValues,
    /// See https://drafts.csswg.org/css-text-3/#word-break-property
    #[clap(short, long, default_value = "normal")]
    word_option: LineBreakWordOptionValues,

    /// Print this app's GNU GPL-3.0 license
    #[arg(short = 'L', long)]
    license: bool,

    /// Print this app's source code
    #[arg(short = 'S', long)]
    source: bool,
}

const WORD_JOINER: char = '\u{2060}';

fn main() -> io::Result<()> {
    let args = Args::parse();

    if args.source || args.license {
        if args.source {
            println!(
                "Cargo.toml:\n{config}\n\nsrc/main.rs:\n{source}\n\nREADME.md:\n{readme}",
                config = include_str!("../Cargo.toml"),
                source = include_str!("main.rs"),
                readme = include_str!("../README.md"),
            );
        }

        if args.license {
            println!("LICENSE:\n{}", include_str!("../LICENSE"));
        }

        return Ok(());
    }

    let mut options = LineBreakOptions::default();
    options.strictness = Some(args.strictness.into());
    options.word_option = Some(args.word_option.into());

    let segmenter = LineSegmenter::new_auto(options);

    let mut stdout = io::stdout().lock();

    if args.file_paths.is_empty() {
        let stdin = io::stdin();

        if args.by_line {
            join_text_by_lines(stdout, stdin, segmenter)?;
        } else {
            join_text_by_all(stdout, stdin, segmenter)?;
        }
    } else {
        for path in args.file_paths {
            let file = File::open(path)?;

            join_text_by_lines(&mut stdout, file, segmenter)?;
        }
    }

    Ok(())
}

fn join_text_by_lines(
    mut writer: impl Write,
    text: impl Read,
    segmenter: LineSegmenterBorrowed,
) -> io::Result<()> {
    for line in BufReader::new(text).lines() {
        let line = line?;

        join_text(&mut writer, &line, segmenter)?;
        writeln!(&mut writer)?;
    }

    Ok(())
}

fn join_text_by_all(
    writer: impl Write,
    mut text: impl Read,
    segmenter: LineSegmenterBorrowed,
) -> io::Result<()> {
    let mut input = String::new();
    text.read_to_string(&mut input)?;

    join_text(writer, &input, segmenter)?;

    Ok(())
}

fn join_text(
    mut writer: impl Write,
    text: &str,
    segmenter: LineSegmenterBorrowed,
) -> io::Result<()> {
    let mut segments = segmenter.segment_str(text).peekable();

    while let (Some(start), Some(&end)) = (segments.next(), segments.peek()) {
        let segment = &text[start..end];

        write!(writer, "{segment}")?;

        if end < text.len()
            && segment
                .chars()
                .next_back()
                .is_some_and(|end| !end.is_whitespace())
        {
            write!(writer, "{WORD_JOINER}")?;
        }
    }

    Ok(())
}

#[derive(Clone, ValueEnum)]
enum LineBreakStrictnessValues {
    Loose,
    Normal,
    Strict,
    Anywhere,
}

impl From<LineBreakStrictnessValues> for LineBreakStrictness {
    fn from(value: LineBreakStrictnessValues) -> Self {
        match value {
            LineBreakStrictnessValues::Loose => LineBreakStrictness::Loose,
            LineBreakStrictnessValues::Normal => LineBreakStrictness::Normal,
            LineBreakStrictnessValues::Strict => LineBreakStrictness::Strict,
            LineBreakStrictnessValues::Anywhere => LineBreakStrictness::Anywhere,
        }
    }
}

#[derive(Clone, ValueEnum)]
enum LineBreakWordOptionValues {
    Normal,
    BreakAll,
    KeepAll,
}

impl From<LineBreakWordOptionValues> for LineBreakWordOption {
    fn from(value: LineBreakWordOptionValues) -> Self {
        match value {
            LineBreakWordOptionValues::Normal => LineBreakWordOption::Normal,
            LineBreakWordOptionValues::BreakAll => LineBreakWordOption::BreakAll,
            LineBreakWordOptionValues::KeepAll => LineBreakWordOption::KeepAll,
        }
    }
}

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have a guess that it was added as a workaround the moment Rust was marketed as a general C++ replacement, and as people started to realize overusing the FP paradigm also has its downsides, it's not unique to OOP.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

Pure OOP without first class functions sucks fucking ass.

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