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[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

So even if they weren't a walking surveillance apocalypse, they're an effective poor tax.

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[–] walden@wetshav.ing 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

To be fair, people should definitely get fines for passing school buses. I'm more mad at the state for being different than the rest of the country and including divided highways in their school bus law.

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[–] cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

That's the point of laws. You start with a concept everyone basically agrees with, then use it as a pretense to exploit whoever you want, and call it protection. Gradually fine-tune the targeting and expand the scope of the oppression, and often forget the original point.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

including divided highways in their school bus law

Rural state? Whether or not divided highways make sense depends on whether or not kids are crossing these highways to get to their stops. Seems like that wouldn't happen anywhere but you never know. In my district (Philly suburb) we design our runs so that kids rarely have to cross any street at all, and never have to cross even just multi-lane roads (let alone divided highways).

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[–] walden@wetshav.ing 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

NY. If the law was designed around rural areas, I would assume those areas would either have interstate highways with no houses on them, or two lane, non-divided highways with houses so you'd have to stop for a school bus in that case.

Divided highway can also be a little vague. In this case, the division is just a raised median. Not one of those angled concrete walls designed to lift cars and turn them back into their lane. Still, by definition it's divided.

The place where my wife got tagged doesn't require kids to cross the highway. The bus stops in front of their house, and there are no houses on the other side of the highway. Even if kids did have to cross a 4 lane road, they'd do it before the bus arrives, right? I'm not sure.

I don't know the logic they used when making it different than most other states. I think PA is similar, but I remember there being a small difference which made it a little more logical.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago

NY has generally slightly weird school bus laws. They require a driver's side emergency exit door, two swing-out stop signs, seatbelts, and they don't paint the rub rails black. I have no idea why they have yellow rub rails, makes no sense at all.

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