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[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think a major problem is that it is difficult to prove which IP is in the model data. That's why the AI companies argue that there isn't a verbatim copy in the model, and therefore it's not theft. The law in most countries is not equipped to deal with this scenario

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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 months ago* (2 children)

Seems easy enough to prove with a court order. Short of that though I've seen people get models to perfectly complete content inferring that information is in there somewhere or at minimum the model is willing to go fetch that information breaching copyright. I am still curious if this is an issue in AI labs elsewhere or if it's primarily a US / UK issue.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

You've got a lot of faith in the symmetry of the legal system!

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[–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

With what seems like millions upon millions of copyright infringements, seems like more than enough for a serious firm to take on. With some major copyright owners on board I don't think it would be as David and Goliath as you're making it out to be. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of these cases come to pass when these labs actually become profitable. I haven't heard any pushback on copyright for AI labs in other countries so far so it seems to be a uniquely western complaint although I'm more than happy to be proved incorrect. I honestly have no clue how copyright is managed in Israel, India, or China.

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