▲ 535 ▼ Residents who live near data centers say a constant low-frequency vibration is ruining their health and homes (www.nytimes.com) submitted 3 months ago* by Valuy@lemmy.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 105 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 11 points 3 months ago (7 children) we’ve had data centres for 40 years how did this only recently come up in America? Ngl didn’t read the article permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] SUDO@reddthat.com 83 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (5 children) So they build them cheaply and doing everything in their power to avoid regulations. We really need the government to come in and shut these down given all the harm they cause to their local environment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] myrmidex@belgae.social 7 points 3 months ago A government worried about the environment... That usually only happens in times of mass outrage, chances of which might decrease over time by modern propaganda communication strategies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago Yeah. People don't understand why I'm not anti-datacenter (let me finish before you dog-pile me). Datacenters are very efficient ways to house lots of compute. Power, HVAC, and staffing all benefit from economies of scale. Most of our modern life is highly depent on datacenters, including application specific AI tools (not LLMs, but like medical imaging analysis tools) that will have positive effects on humanity. I do have problems with datacenters that are going up quickly and cheaply, with lax standards for air, water, sound and light pollution, and power subsidized by the surrounding homes, in order to ride the front of this very unstable AI bubble. Before you ask, I did sign the petition to limit datacenters in my state. I'd sign one to limit new datacenter construction nation-wide. Datacenters are essential to modern life, which is exactly why we should have a higher standard for how they are constructed. I'm not anti-data center, but I am anti-whatever-the-fuck-this-is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) We really need the government to come in and shut these down given all the harm they cause to their local environment But the government is helping pave the way for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) It was a theoretical thing. Government is supposed to work for the people, not just corporations. Obviously the government in the US is not doing a good job at that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago You're right. They are not. At. All. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SUDO@reddthat.com 83 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (5 children) So they build them cheaply and doing everything in their power to avoid regulations. We really need the government to come in and shut these down given all the harm they cause to their local environment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] myrmidex@belgae.social 7 points 3 months ago A government worried about the environment... That usually only happens in times of mass outrage, chances of which might decrease over time by modern propaganda communication strategies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago Yeah. People don't understand why I'm not anti-datacenter (let me finish before you dog-pile me). Datacenters are very efficient ways to house lots of compute. Power, HVAC, and staffing all benefit from economies of scale. Most of our modern life is highly depent on datacenters, including application specific AI tools (not LLMs, but like medical imaging analysis tools) that will have positive effects on humanity. I do have problems with datacenters that are going up quickly and cheaply, with lax standards for air, water, sound and light pollution, and power subsidized by the surrounding homes, in order to ride the front of this very unstable AI bubble. Before you ask, I did sign the petition to limit datacenters in my state. I'd sign one to limit new datacenter construction nation-wide. Datacenters are essential to modern life, which is exactly why we should have a higher standard for how they are constructed. I'm not anti-data center, but I am anti-whatever-the-fuck-this-is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) We really need the government to come in and shut these down given all the harm they cause to their local environment But the government is helping pave the way for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) It was a theoretical thing. Government is supposed to work for the people, not just corporations. Obviously the government in the US is not doing a good job at that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago You're right. They are not. At. All. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago (5 children) So they build them cheaply and doing everything in their power to avoid regulations. We really need the government to come in and shut these down given all the harm they cause to their local environment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] myrmidex@belgae.social 7 points 3 months ago A government worried about the environment... That usually only happens in times of mass outrage, chances of which might decrease over time by modern propaganda communication strategies. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago Yeah. People don't understand why I'm not anti-datacenter (let me finish before you dog-pile me). Datacenters are very efficient ways to house lots of compute. Power, HVAC, and staffing all benefit from economies of scale. Most of our modern life is highly depent on datacenters, including application specific AI tools (not LLMs, but like medical imaging analysis tools) that will have positive effects on humanity. I do have problems with datacenters that are going up quickly and cheaply, with lax standards for air, water, sound and light pollution, and power subsidized by the surrounding homes, in order to ride the front of this very unstable AI bubble. Before you ask, I did sign the petition to limit datacenters in my state. I'd sign one to limit new datacenter construction nation-wide. Datacenters are essential to modern life, which is exactly why we should have a higher standard for how they are constructed. I'm not anti-data center, but I am anti-whatever-the-fuck-this-is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) We really need the government to come in and shut these down given all the harm they cause to their local environment But the government is helping pave the way for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) It was a theoretical thing. Government is supposed to work for the people, not just corporations. Obviously the government in the US is not doing a good job at that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago You're right. They are not. At. All. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 7 points 3 months ago A government worried about the environment... That usually only happens in times of mass outrage, chances of which might decrease over time by modern propaganda communication strategies. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago Yeah. People don't understand why I'm not anti-datacenter (let me finish before you dog-pile me). Datacenters are very efficient ways to house lots of compute. Power, HVAC, and staffing all benefit from economies of scale. Most of our modern life is highly depent on datacenters, including application specific AI tools (not LLMs, but like medical imaging analysis tools) that will have positive effects on humanity. I do have problems with datacenters that are going up quickly and cheaply, with lax standards for air, water, sound and light pollution, and power subsidized by the surrounding homes, in order to ride the front of this very unstable AI bubble. Before you ask, I did sign the petition to limit datacenters in my state. I'd sign one to limit new datacenter construction nation-wide. Datacenters are essential to modern life, which is exactly why we should have a higher standard for how they are constructed. I'm not anti-data center, but I am anti-whatever-the-fuck-this-is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) We really need the government to come in and shut these down given all the harm they cause to their local environment But the government is helping pave the way for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) It was a theoretical thing. Government is supposed to work for the people, not just corporations. Obviously the government in the US is not doing a good job at that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago You're right. They are not. At. All. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) It was a theoretical thing. Government is supposed to work for the people, not just corporations. Obviously the government in the US is not doing a good job at that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago You're right. They are not. At. All. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago You're right. They are not. At. All. permalink fedilink source parent