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That's an idiotic take.
The standard is 20%. That means average service (from a bell curve perspective) is worth 20% of your subtotal. That's what society has agreed on. If you don't like it, that's fine, I dislike how servers are compensated as well, but it's the reality we live in.
Saying that "20% isn't appropriate" and insisting it's instead "what is earned," when nobody but yourself suggested it, is just odd behavior that makes you sound cheap. Everybody knows tips are earned. When someone says a 20% tip is standard they aren't saying you must leave a 20% tip even if the service was awful.
No it's not. Saying there is a standard is idiotic. Fuck that. The standard is whatever I choose to give. If you were my wait staff I'm betting you wouldn't earn shit.
And you wonder why I'm saying you seem cheap. Despite knowing nothing about how I'd hypothetically serve you, you're already saying you'd give me nothing. Reflect on that, and I pray wait staff never have to suffer your behavior until it's changed.
I'm very fair to wait staff. I spent a lot of years waiting tables. That's why I know what they should be doing, and what deserves to be tipped. I've tipped the staff not waiting on me before when my waiter was a dumbass. I also know that they earn what they want.
Mhm, sure. So fair that you couldn't wait to talk about how you don't pay 20% and love to pay nothing.
Nope if you read my comments I never said I love to pay nothing. What I said specifically was that if the waiter or waitress is an ass then they get nothing. And if you read my other comments I stated that I rarely pay nothing. It's only every once in a great while that they're such bad servers that they get nothing. Would I specifically said was that I don't set 20% as a standard. I said whatever their service is worth as a standard. Tipping is not a right tipping is not required tipping is not something that I have to do tipping is not something I need to do. Tipping is something that is an extra it's a bonus to the service that is provided. That is literally what a tip is. Too many dumbasses think that a tip is required and expected now. If they want it to be required and expected put it on the fucking menu raise my prices and I'll pay what it's required there. Just like they do in the rest of the fucking world.
Here's the thing, you say stuff like this,
totally unprompted, because nobody here ever suggested that someone always receives a 20% tip regardless of the level of service. But when you follow it up with things like this,
It certainly sounds like you enjoy tipping nothing. It reminds me of the way people get excited about revenge/vigilante fantasies, where people get so excited to see someone who has done something wrong suffer. You definitely sound excited to talk about how a lazy server who ignores you is going to get no money and how the other server who did will get their tip instead. (Which, as an aside, is fine, nobody suggested people who don't serve well should get a 20% tip.)
Nobody is compelling you to tip, but just totally choosing to ignore the societal standards of how wait staff are compensated by throwing a tantrum is so weird, because you do say you tip. So I guess the real question is, who hurt you?? lol. Did you have some sort of life altering experience with a server that was so bad that you can't help but point out that bad servers exist and don't deserve tips??