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Data analyst finds 'AI stigma' on Steam can reduce the number of reviews a game gets by around 53%—and the reviews it does get are more negative (www.pcgamer.com)
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[–] 32 points 3 months ago (11 children)

When Valve updated the policy for games published on Steam to include disclosure of Ai usage in the games, Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney responded in the public that this should not be done and just hurts the industry. It would generate unneeded backslash, as everyone will use Ai in development, according to Tim. Fast forward to today, turns out Epic plans on integrating Ai tools into Unreal Engine 5.

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  • [+] -20 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    You will not find a game engine without some AI tool. Same way as majority of devs will use AI in some capacity.

    People only care about AI when presented with it. If non of these games had AI generated visual elements, people would be non the wiser.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    You will not find a game engine without some AI tool.

    I don't know where you getting this and spreading misinformation. I think Unreal Engine didn't have any Ai integration in its entire history. And I'm sure there are game engines without Ai tools integrated by default. I think the Open Source engine Godot in example does not have any of that. If I'm wrong, then please enlighten me. I mean seriously, I want to know if the engine includes Ai tools by default, because I care about.

    People only care about AI when presented with it.

    So they care about then? Whats really bad is, if companies or developers hide the usage of Ai and only admit using it after they got caught. There are many problems with Ai why people care about this subject. And it should be an informed decision of the buyer, if Ai is used or not or to what extend and what type of Ai. Generating art is not the same as autocompletion of words when programming in example. Using Ai to replace voice actors is also not something we want to see. Ai is trained unethically on data without permission.

    If non of these games had AI generated visual elements, people would be non the wiser.

    I don't understand this statement.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I think they're basically saying that if the kitchen staff spits in your food and doesn't tell you, then you wouldn't care. It's only when you find out that you care.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    No, that's wrong analogy. I do care if the staff spits in my food. Because I want food without spit in it. Just because they did not tell me they spit in it, does not mean I wouldn't care.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, which is exactly why it is such a good analogy to what the pro AI commentator meant. You care for it and not knowing doesnt mean you don't care, you just can't express it without sounding like a lunatic that asks every waiter if they spit in your food

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    But that is not what has been said. It has been said: "You only start caring, after it is exposed." And that was what I was responding and arguing with. Here the quote I do not agree with:

    People only care about AI when presented with it.

    The guy responding then saying what you said is a different person, with its own take.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Yes, and I (and the other comment with the analogy) agree with you. The pro AI comment surely wasn't meant in the way of the analogy. But the analogy explained it exactly right. Pro AI people act as if we wouldn't care that somebody spits into our soup, except if we know it. But we do care even if we don't know it, it's just really hard to prove.

    So we are all in agreement here, except the first pro AI statement.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I do care if the staff spits in my food. Because I want food without spit in it

    How'd you know if they did?
    It's not like any restaurant has an open kitchen you can look into.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    A little off topic now but I've seen that a bit, the restaurants I've worked in you could see everything in the kitchen, even the person doing prep, they were all Japanese though so that's probably a cultural thing.

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