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[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

The second protects the right to bear arms.

No it doesn't actually... If you read the whole thing.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

We can support gun control without resorting to language games.
That clearly states that it's the right to bear arms that shall not be infringed. Versions ratified by the states variously lacked the commas that make it weird to a modern reading, and the right to weapons is one of the historical rights they complained of being restricted in the declaration of independence.

It's sufficient to just say that we'll accept restrictions on the second amendment in line with the restrictions on every other enumerated right.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 14 hours ago

A well-regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

--the whole thing.

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

And what are you doing as a well regulated militia, necessary for the security of a free state?

You owning a shotgun while sitting on your couch isn't well regulated, or security.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -1 points 14 hours ago

Ah, this retarded argument again. With the exception of ignorant hippies, I've only ever seen that nonsense brought up as a reason to disarm black people. So which are you? Idiot or racist?

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Just someone who doesn't even live in your country but apparently knows more about your constitution than you do.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

You obviously don't because you're interpreting it wrong.

Constitutional scholars interpret "A well-regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state" as a prefatory clause, with "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" as the operating clause. The first is there to explain why the second is there, not to limit its scope.

You know the first time this whole militia crap came up? Dred Scott v. Sandford, 1856. "But if we give negroes citizenship, that means they'll be allowed to have guns!" Which minority group do you personally want it to be safer for white men to systematically brutalize? Black people? Women? Gay people? Trans people? Jews? Muslims?

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