you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 66 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (16 children)

Privacy first? So what is WhatsApp doing on there?

I get why, that is for a lot of people the ONLY way they use a phone instead of calling, but this definitely not privacy first or social media free then.

  • source
  • hideshow 16 child comments
  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)

    I mean, it's not like it comes preloaded or anything. It's Linux, you can choose install (or not install) whatever you want.

    Edit: Good Lord, it actually does come preloaded. Unreal.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 11 child comments
  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    It’s Linux, you can choose install (or not install) whatever you want.

    yes, well except that is what they are trying to patent (as far as I can tell) using key based tools to not allow certain apps and DNS filtering as well. If its based on linux, thats one thing, but doesnt stop them from locking things down.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Sure, but the point is, it doesn't come with WhatsApp on it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    According to their ad, it does.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    No, it's showcasing the ability to install Android apps.

    which offers 99% compatibility with Android apps, including WhatsApp, Google Maps, and Spotify.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    They have it in the screen shot. And my point stands: they said they would stop apps that were social or anti-privacy (by refusing to load them or dns blocking) and WhatsApp is both of these things.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Supposedly you can't install some things. Hopefully this is an optional parental control feature, and not baked in to every phone. They would be losing a lot of potential nostalgia sales if they only chase after the "forced distraction free" market. Some people can control their usage without needing the device to do it for them. 🤷

    The phone also blocks internet browsers and social media apps at a system level, "using patent-pending technology, eliminating temptation and designed with distraction-free schools in mind." This ties in neatly with the upcoming ban on social media for the under-16s in the UK, but I can't imagine there are many teenagers who even know what Commodore is.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    One has nothing to do with the other. A properly configured Android is not going to leak any information to its apps. The problem comes with the customized Android a phone maker uses, where they do everything to gather data (or let others gather data if they pay for it).

    So while the app itself is anything but privacy friendly, the phone is. So is GrapheneOS with WhatsApp.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    WhatsApp has access to your plain text before it encrypts it. One has to trust WhatsApp with that. That’s the problem. Meta is untrustworthy.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I did not try to imply that WhatsApp is secure or trustworthy. They will, of course, use as much data as they can. But that’s something out of control of the mobile phone. And if they wouldn’t pre-install WhatsApp, users will download it ASAP.

  • source
  • parent