▲ 75 ▼ Is it possible to install a distro directly from online ? (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 months ago by TheViking@nord.pub to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world 56 comments fedilink hide all child comments I am working on windows 10 currently. I was wondering if MX Linux could be installed directly from online. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children) That’s how I interpreted the statement. Open web browser Click install Files down load and install. Computer reboots with Linux os installed on hard drive permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] zorro@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 child) I feel like you should be able to do this tbh. I can basically do this from Linux. I could build a disk image and extract it right onto my disk and reboot and be in that new system. It would take some work to get right, but it's basically how the rpi images work. I think your biggest issue is making sure enough utilities were loaded in ram that you could finish the extraction before the system crashes cause you've deleted some important utilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (4 children) The answer is no, because you'd need windows to allow your Linux installer to take over top runtime privilege and modify live partitions while mounted and in use. While i guess it's technically possible, it's so much of a hassle i wouldn't even want to start considering it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) There's WebUSB on Chromium browsers, a JS API for all kinds of peripherals. I think formatting mass storage is allowed, as long as it's connected by USB permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child) It is, and the whole permission is being used by Grapheneos to perform the coolest and easiest mobile flashing I've ever done. It's all done through a webpage installer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* If you have a Chromium browser, that is. I'll prefer installing libusb and using fastboot flash until there's Firefox support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zorro@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think you are right. A little bit of research seems to show that windows doesnt allow such things. On Linux you could make a ramdisk with like BusyBox and your new image (or new image on some other drive) pivot_root then overwrite the entire boot disk to some other disk image. It would be a bit hairy, but could be done permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheViking@nord.pub [S] 2 points 2 months ago That's the reason l wish to do away with windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zorro@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago I wouldn't consider this a real option in any way, but it is a fun experiment to theorycraft. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Theoretically it could be done. Microsoft SCCM has allowed in-place full reimaging for a long time. It downloads a WinPE boot image (which loads everything into a RAM disk), reboots into that, and launches all of the rest from there. Even wiping and repartitioning the drive. I don't see why that WinPE image couldn't be replaced by a small Linux image, or that you could install Linux from WinPE. I've just never seen it. That said, no browser should ever have that level of permissions, ever, under any circumstances. The security problems would be staggering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Well this way you're writing a boot image to the bootloader right? I mean you're replacing the usb stick with extra steps but it's not like you're running from the installed windows. You are rebooting into something else. permalink fedilink source parent [–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Sort of like GrapheneOS does, right? I don't actually have GOS, but I thought the installer worked like that. Otherwise, there's always the WSL that I think is how I installed Ubuntu (just as a test!!! I haven't used Ubuntu since 2009) inside Windows 10 a few years back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Its a different device though, you run the installer on a browser with usb access and the phone gets flashed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zorro@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 child) I feel like you should be able to do this tbh. I can basically do this from Linux. I could build a disk image and extract it right onto my disk and reboot and be in that new system. It would take some work to get right, but it's basically how the rpi images work. I think your biggest issue is making sure enough utilities were loaded in ram that you could finish the extraction before the system crashes cause you've deleted some important utilities. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (4 children) The answer is no, because you'd need windows to allow your Linux installer to take over top runtime privilege and modify live partitions while mounted and in use. While i guess it's technically possible, it's so much of a hassle i wouldn't even want to start considering it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) There's WebUSB on Chromium browsers, a JS API for all kinds of peripherals. I think formatting mass storage is allowed, as long as it's connected by USB permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child) It is, and the whole permission is being used by Grapheneos to perform the coolest and easiest mobile flashing I've ever done. It's all done through a webpage installer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* If you have a Chromium browser, that is. I'll prefer installing libusb and using fastboot flash until there's Firefox support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zorro@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think you are right. A little bit of research seems to show that windows doesnt allow such things. On Linux you could make a ramdisk with like BusyBox and your new image (or new image on some other drive) pivot_root then overwrite the entire boot disk to some other disk image. It would be a bit hairy, but could be done permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheViking@nord.pub [S] 2 points 2 months ago That's the reason l wish to do away with windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zorro@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago I wouldn't consider this a real option in any way, but it is a fun experiment to theorycraft. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Theoretically it could be done. Microsoft SCCM has allowed in-place full reimaging for a long time. It downloads a WinPE boot image (which loads everything into a RAM disk), reboots into that, and launches all of the rest from there. Even wiping and repartitioning the drive. I don't see why that WinPE image couldn't be replaced by a small Linux image, or that you could install Linux from WinPE. I've just never seen it. That said, no browser should ever have that level of permissions, ever, under any circumstances. The security problems would be staggering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Well this way you're writing a boot image to the bootloader right? I mean you're replacing the usb stick with extra steps but it's not like you're running from the installed windows. You are rebooting into something else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (4 children) The answer is no, because you'd need windows to allow your Linux installer to take over top runtime privilege and modify live partitions while mounted and in use. While i guess it's technically possible, it's so much of a hassle i wouldn't even want to start considering it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) There's WebUSB on Chromium browsers, a JS API for all kinds of peripherals. I think formatting mass storage is allowed, as long as it's connected by USB permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child) It is, and the whole permission is being used by Grapheneos to perform the coolest and easiest mobile flashing I've ever done. It's all done through a webpage installer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* If you have a Chromium browser, that is. I'll prefer installing libusb and using fastboot flash until there's Firefox support. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zorro@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think you are right. A little bit of research seems to show that windows doesnt allow such things. On Linux you could make a ramdisk with like BusyBox and your new image (or new image on some other drive) pivot_root then overwrite the entire boot disk to some other disk image. It would be a bit hairy, but could be done permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheViking@nord.pub [S] 2 points 2 months ago That's the reason l wish to do away with windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zorro@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago I wouldn't consider this a real option in any way, but it is a fun experiment to theorycraft. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Theoretically it could be done. Microsoft SCCM has allowed in-place full reimaging for a long time. It downloads a WinPE boot image (which loads everything into a RAM disk), reboots into that, and launches all of the rest from there. Even wiping and repartitioning the drive. I don't see why that WinPE image couldn't be replaced by a small Linux image, or that you could install Linux from WinPE. I've just never seen it. That said, no browser should ever have that level of permissions, ever, under any circumstances. The security problems would be staggering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Well this way you're writing a boot image to the bootloader right? I mean you're replacing the usb stick with extra steps but it's not like you're running from the installed windows. You are rebooting into something else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) There's WebUSB on Chromium browsers, a JS API for all kinds of peripherals. I think formatting mass storage is allowed, as long as it's connected by USB permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child) It is, and the whole permission is being used by Grapheneos to perform the coolest and easiest mobile flashing I've ever done. It's all done through a webpage installer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* If you have a Chromium browser, that is. I'll prefer installing libusb and using fastboot flash until there's Firefox support. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child) It is, and the whole permission is being used by Grapheneos to perform the coolest and easiest mobile flashing I've ever done. It's all done through a webpage installer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* If you have a Chromium browser, that is. I'll prefer installing libusb and using fastboot flash until there's Firefox support. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago* If you have a Chromium browser, that is. I'll prefer installing libusb and using fastboot flash until there's Firefox support. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zorro@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) I think you are right. A little bit of research seems to show that windows doesnt allow such things. On Linux you could make a ramdisk with like BusyBox and your new image (or new image on some other drive) pivot_root then overwrite the entire boot disk to some other disk image. It would be a bit hairy, but could be done permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheViking@nord.pub [S] 2 points 2 months ago That's the reason l wish to do away with windows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheViking@nord.pub [S] 2 points 2 months ago That's the reason l wish to do away with windows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zorro@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago I wouldn't consider this a real option in any way, but it is a fun experiment to theorycraft. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) Theoretically it could be done. Microsoft SCCM has allowed in-place full reimaging for a long time. It downloads a WinPE boot image (which loads everything into a RAM disk), reboots into that, and launches all of the rest from there. Even wiping and repartitioning the drive. I don't see why that WinPE image couldn't be replaced by a small Linux image, or that you could install Linux from WinPE. I've just never seen it. That said, no browser should ever have that level of permissions, ever, under any circumstances. The security problems would be staggering. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Well this way you're writing a boot image to the bootloader right? I mean you're replacing the usb stick with extra steps but it's not like you're running from the installed windows. You are rebooting into something else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago Well this way you're writing a boot image to the bootloader right? I mean you're replacing the usb stick with extra steps but it's not like you're running from the installed windows. You are rebooting into something else. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Sort of like GrapheneOS does, right? I don't actually have GOS, but I thought the installer worked like that. Otherwise, there's always the WSL that I think is how I installed Ubuntu (just as a test!!! I haven't used Ubuntu since 2009) inside Windows 10 a few years back. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Its a different device though, you run the installer on a browser with usb access and the phone gets flashed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago Its a different device though, you run the installer on a browser with usb access and the phone gets flashed. permalink fedilink source parent
