▲ 687 ▼ Judge Learns Lawyers on Both Sides of Case Used AI, Cancels Trial, Kicks Everyone Off the Case (www.404media.co) submitted 2 months ago by abacabadabacaba@infosec.pub to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world 82 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) You are talking about lawyers? Nice and decent? Wow. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Plenty of them are. (Only speaking on America because I don't know much about elsewhere). The national lawyers guild is awesome. The ACLU has its controversies and decisions I may not love, but by fuck do they fight for our civil rights. Environmental lawyers accept shit pay and long hours to fight for a habitable world. Public defenders accept bad pay and long hours standing up for the accused (yeah lot of issues there too, but the job is necessary). There are lawyers fighting for civil rights all over, especially now as the government engages in tyranny. And yeah social security and disability lawyers fighting to get people what they're owed. Lawyers can be expensive, slimy, and weaponized, but they're also a vital tool in pressuring governments, and yeah that goes both ways too. Fascists want you to be disillusioned by them because lawyers are part of how we preserve the rule of law instead of rule by law. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago* (1 child) There is a lot to unpack here. But generally, you mention exceptions to the rule. The ACLU, is milquetoast and always has been. They never stood up for the labor movement, and hardly stick up for those poisoned by the most powerful corporations for instance. Court appointed attorneys? I am tempted to say get the fuck out of here, many are good, more are bad. These are aspiring good old boys, and or shitty lawyers that bend their clients over for the system so they can be part of the club. Environmental lawyers are on notice after Donzinger. Don't expect shit. The system they operate under is broken, so if they want to succeed in their careers they have to betray the common good. That's the problem and it's not new, although getting worse. Fuck Lawyers. What do you call a hundred lawyers at the bottom of the Lake? A good start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ok, boomer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago* (1 child) I reconginze your username with negative connotations. Good job brain, you remembered another half witted troll! Such a cogent argument to my reason too! You are truly a masterdebater! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I don't remember you, another old man naively bitching about lawyers as a profession doesn't really register, sorry Make a joke about your wife next, I'm sure it'll be original! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago Worthless commentary, you aren't worth responding to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) Plenty of them are. (Only speaking on America because I don't know much about elsewhere). The national lawyers guild is awesome. The ACLU has its controversies and decisions I may not love, but by fuck do they fight for our civil rights. Environmental lawyers accept shit pay and long hours to fight for a habitable world. Public defenders accept bad pay and long hours standing up for the accused (yeah lot of issues there too, but the job is necessary). There are lawyers fighting for civil rights all over, especially now as the government engages in tyranny. And yeah social security and disability lawyers fighting to get people what they're owed. Lawyers can be expensive, slimy, and weaponized, but they're also a vital tool in pressuring governments, and yeah that goes both ways too. Fascists want you to be disillusioned by them because lawyers are part of how we preserve the rule of law instead of rule by law. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago* (1 child) There is a lot to unpack here. But generally, you mention exceptions to the rule. The ACLU, is milquetoast and always has been. They never stood up for the labor movement, and hardly stick up for those poisoned by the most powerful corporations for instance. Court appointed attorneys? I am tempted to say get the fuck out of here, many are good, more are bad. These are aspiring good old boys, and or shitty lawyers that bend their clients over for the system so they can be part of the club. Environmental lawyers are on notice after Donzinger. Don't expect shit. The system they operate under is broken, so if they want to succeed in their careers they have to betray the common good. That's the problem and it's not new, although getting worse. Fuck Lawyers. What do you call a hundred lawyers at the bottom of the Lake? A good start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ok, boomer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago* (1 child) I reconginze your username with negative connotations. Good job brain, you remembered another half witted troll! Such a cogent argument to my reason too! You are truly a masterdebater! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I don't remember you, another old man naively bitching about lawyers as a profession doesn't really register, sorry Make a joke about your wife next, I'm sure it'll be original! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago Worthless commentary, you aren't worth responding to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago* (1 child) There is a lot to unpack here. But generally, you mention exceptions to the rule. The ACLU, is milquetoast and always has been. They never stood up for the labor movement, and hardly stick up for those poisoned by the most powerful corporations for instance. Court appointed attorneys? I am tempted to say get the fuck out of here, many are good, more are bad. These are aspiring good old boys, and or shitty lawyers that bend their clients over for the system so they can be part of the club. Environmental lawyers are on notice after Donzinger. Don't expect shit. The system they operate under is broken, so if they want to succeed in their careers they have to betray the common good. That's the problem and it's not new, although getting worse. Fuck Lawyers. What do you call a hundred lawyers at the bottom of the Lake? A good start. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ok, boomer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago* (1 child) I reconginze your username with negative connotations. Good job brain, you remembered another half witted troll! Such a cogent argument to my reason too! You are truly a masterdebater! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I don't remember you, another old man naively bitching about lawyers as a profession doesn't really register, sorry Make a joke about your wife next, I'm sure it'll be original! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago Worthless commentary, you aren't worth responding to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) Ok, boomer permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago* (1 child) I reconginze your username with negative connotations. Good job brain, you remembered another half witted troll! Such a cogent argument to my reason too! You are truly a masterdebater! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I don't remember you, another old man naively bitching about lawyers as a profession doesn't really register, sorry Make a joke about your wife next, I'm sure it'll be original! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago Worthless commentary, you aren't worth responding to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago* (1 child) I reconginze your username with negative connotations. Good job brain, you remembered another half witted troll! Such a cogent argument to my reason too! You are truly a masterdebater! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I don't remember you, another old man naively bitching about lawyers as a profession doesn't really register, sorry Make a joke about your wife next, I'm sure it'll be original! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago Worthless commentary, you aren't worth responding to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 child) I don't remember you, another old man naively bitching about lawyers as a profession doesn't really register, sorry Make a joke about your wife next, I'm sure it'll be original! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago Worthless commentary, you aren't worth responding to. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago Worthless commentary, you aren't worth responding to. permalink fedilink source parent