Should've fined both lawyers for this bullshit.
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How the hell did these lawyers do their jobs before?
And paralegals, I would bet the paralegals are the ones useing AI, but telling a judge "hey I didn't check anything I just submitted what the paralegals gave me" could be worse for the career.
I miss integrity.
I know how this is going to sound but during college I thought I was going to go to law school and I had a cute little part-time job with the smallest local law firm. It was just the lawyer who had been doing it for ages and another part-time lawyer, so pretty much a one-man firm, and I would draft briefs for him that were absolutely ridiculous in their acerbity. He would then edit them and call me into his office and show me his edits and tell me I needed to tone it down. It was social security disability law, so there were a lot of people with debilitating diseases, some of whom didn't receive benefits for YEARS until after their deaths (benefits went to widow/ers). It shook me and the scales fell from my eyes, but we actually worked on these things. He was a smart guy and could have done a different field of law but he genuinely wanted to do this, and the college students he employed cared too, and we crafted our own words.
I really miss that man.
Anyway, all of that to say even if paralegals were drafting the lawyers' statements, there is no reason for them to not look over them and properly edit before they submit. Because some of my first drafts were wildddd lol
Hey, as a man on ssdi I honestly appreciate you. And I honestly feel most lawyers and their employees are dedicated and work hard to get things right, that's why when stupid shit happens it makes the news, noone wants to read "normal decent guy, dedicated to their profession, once again does an outstanding job.
I realy do appreciate your work, I'm a bit odd about words and love clear exact terminology, some leagal briefs I've read are fucking poetry.
Oh sorry I kinda went off on my own tangent but I'm glad you have people looking out for you. We had to file and file and file and kept bouncing to different courts and going to the 7th circuit etc and it was crazy how much work they put in to try to block it. Imagine if they just gave you benefits straight away, since they definitely wasted more money with the denials and appeals. What a wonderful world. I really hope you're doing well (clearly I'm not the terminology guy)
Nah your good man, it truly is insane watching how much money gets wasted by trying to catch cheats. Just have Dr's submit shit and get it done, then if someone does cheat go after the Dr's and the cheaters.
I'm not a lawyer, path diverged, but it was both hilarious and devastating what went on in that office. I'd turn in initial briefs (my job way back then was to read through all their medical notes and then turn them into something readable for the law types) and it was just like "this guy has needed a new wheelchair for 2 fuckin years, assholes," and then I'd find the specs of the different wheelchairs that would be more suitable, and then my lovely old boss would call me into the office and say "hey, that's not how we word things, let's have you go over my edits" and we'd trade back and forth until my vitriol married his professionalism.
A scathing legal brief is so exciting to read. You're on the edge of your seat like it's a final match in [insert your preferred sport] like GET EM!" Good times.
I hope you're doing okay, message me if you want to vent about the SSDI process or anything! I'm not in it now tho
Part of the problem these days is people have slowly stopped mentoring young professionals like that. Yes it takes time, but it's either paying it forward or leaving the world better than you found it. As a professional I have obligations to society, and I believe those include the integrity to review everything I professionally endorse to a reasonable degree, and to help guide and instruct younger members of my career when given opportunities. It's important to say "hey, here's what you did wrong, here's why it's wrong, here's how you should do it."
I don't know, it seems we've nearly perfected a failing upward system. Much better than all those old fashioned professional oaths we used to take serious. /s
Dump the work on your underlings, but now they are dumping it on AI. Whoops.
"you get what you pay for" is not even a thing anymore. Lazy people will just use an LLM and charge you as if they did the actual thinking.
No thinking was involved then
That was the only logical thing to do
So if bots talking to bots is the dead internet, does AI arguing in court against other AI means that we are now seeing the beginning of dead law?
Not in that judge's courtroom 👨⚖️
No. Dead law began with the supreme court (which I shall no longer capitalise) hand-waving presidential crime. Law has been broken ever since in the US, and it's been getting worse.
We have a pedophile for president, the entire legal system is a joke anyway.
Meanwhile the legislators are writing laws with AI, so it's fucked before it gets to the courts
Can't wait for the first law containing emojis…
This is disappointing. I would not want to be the judge on a case that nobody respects.
should follow up with general bar reviews, need to hammer out this behavior.
I've been telling my students that only lazy people use AI. Work email about the upcoming end of term staff party has a fully AI generated poster. (Like, YOU designed our school logo. Why is the logo on the invite completely different?)
And the worst part (unrelated to above, but still hurts)
Staff are willingly adding students names into the prompts. Sure, you can give your personal data to the machine, but the kids? Who have no choice? That hurts.

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