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[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

DARPA was originally ARPA. They were under the department of defense but their project scope wasn't limited to defense projects. The reorganization that rebranded the agency as DARPA and made it defense focused ostensibly saw the non-defense oriented moonshot project responsibility transfer to the NSF, although the funding shift wasn't proportional.
The order of creation isn't exactly relevant to how responsibilities have shifted.

It's kinda like how, for the longest time, presidential security was handled by the Treasury department. It wasn't because presidential security was considered a financial matter, but because that's where it fit.

https://www.darpa.mil/news/features/arpanet

Secure communications and information-sharing between geographically dispersed research facilities were among the ARPANET’s original goals.

From your link to the arpanet wiki:

Building on the ideas of J. C. R. Licklider, Bob Taylor initiated the ARPANET project in 1966 to enable resource sharing between remote computers.

Sutherland and Taylor continued their interest in creating the network, in part, to allow ARPA-sponsored researchers at various corporate and academic locales to utilize computers provided by ARPA, and, in part, to quickly distribute new software and other computer science results.

There's a big difference between ARPA funded labs and general university usage.

I'm not sure why it would matter that you worked for them in the early 90s. That doesn't exactly give you a privileged insight into the creation of ARPANET.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

information-sharing between geographically dispersed research facilities

Research facilities doing DOD research.

I'm not sure why it would matter that you worked for them in the early 90s.

The president of the company got Vint and Bob on board because he was their military liason at Darpa.

The project I worked on was partially funded by Darpa. We reported weekly updates to a Lt Colonel.

The Internet was originally by the military and for the military and only later handed off to universities.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes, I will just take your word for it over the word of the original people involved.

You keep talking about DARPA, when they're not the same organization that backed ARPANET. Arpanet came before laws were passed saying DARPA could only fund projects directly related to defense.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

ARPA was military.

"From 1958 to 1965, ARPA's emphasis centered on major national issues, including space, ballistic missile defense, and nuclear test detection.[21] During 1960, all of its civilian space programs were transferred to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and the military space programs to the individual services.[22]

This allowed ARPA to concentrate its efforts on Project Defender (ballistic missile defense), Project Vela (nuclear test detection), and Project Agile (counterinsurgency R&D programs), and to begin work on computer processing, behavioral sciences, and materials sciences. The DEFENDER and AGILE programs formed the foundation of DARPA sensor, surveillance, and directed energy R&D, particularly in the study of radar, infrared sensing, and x-ray/gamma ray detection."

ARPA was renamed to DARPA in 1972.

"DARPA supported the evolution of the ARPANET (the first wide-area packet switching network), "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA

There was no Internet in 1972. It was ARPANET which was run by DARPA. The D was added to reaffirm that ARPA was the department of defense, not civilian research.

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