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[–] 82 points 4 months ago (10 children)

They should absolutely ban disposable but as long as they're smart about it and don't try and make it a general vape ban. Anything with a microcontroller and OLED display should need regulation to be "disposable". So fucking wasteful.

Vapes can and have always been something you can pop a battery and cartridge and custom juice in. There's zero reason to make it disposable. Make the coil/cotton/juice cartridge disposable... Like a juul was last I checked? That's reasonable.

And then next regulate how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml is fucking insane. That is heart issue level of nicotine. I got buzzed off 12 mg/ml, used 3 or 6mg/ml regularly, and quit at 1.5mg/ml. There's no fucking reason other than harm and addiction to provide 60mg/ml.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    OLED maybe but small micros are now so cheap and so small that they're negligible.

    Battery is probably still the biggest environmental impact.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    One of those 3 cent one time programmable microcontrollers would be sufficient. Something with enough power to run a web server is just wasteful.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Germany only allows 20mg/ml, I didn't know there were countries that allowed 60??? 😭

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Du kriegst auch in Deutschland sehr leicht Vapes mit mehr als 20mg/ml, sind nur eben illegal. Der Schwarzmarkt für Vapes ist groß

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    don't try and make it a general vape ban. In some EU contries 10ml liquid costs more than pack of cigarettes, so they defacto banned vaping. how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml 20 mg/ml is EU wide limit since 2025

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