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[–] 70 points 4 months ago (15 children)

This makes total sense but how does this not go boom? No oxygen in the gas line?

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    So you're saying you should poke a hole in the line?

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago

    That would just make a jet fire. Which may eventually result in the catastrophic failure of the pipe but if you really want to see a house jump cut a slot. Much more area for gases to mix. It's only 1psi probably so a hole may not be enough.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago* (9 children)

    Autoignition temperature of natural gas is above 500c. Need a spark, or enough heat, there could even be a leak and this not be enough heat to ignite.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    I’m pretty sure if it’s red hot it’s close to if not over 500°C but I guess it depends on the metal.

    At least according to this Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heat

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    My understanding is that it doesn't really depend on the metal much. It's just the blackbody radiation associated with that temperature. So basically anything glowing red from heat is probably over 500°C.

    "As the object increases in temperature to about 500 °C (773 K; 932 °F), the emission spectrum gets stronger and extends into the human visual range, and the object appears dull red."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    The intensity does depend on the emissivity of the material, and emissivity is a bit counterintuitive:

    https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/emissivity-coefficients-d_447.html

    But less than you’d think, given the extreme coefficient, as human perception of brightness is nonlinear. An object twice as bright as another looks pretty similar to the eye.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Thanks for the correction. I'm absolutely not gonna pretend I fully understand this, but isn't it still the case that anything glowing red from heat pretty much has to be over 500°C? I.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draper_point ?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    So when you say "Autoignition", then ignition of what? For natural gas to "ignite", as in burn or in other words oxidize, there need to be an oxidizer present.

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