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You have a lovely home (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Just remember that nothing online is real and this 45 year old Chinese/indian/russian/israeli man masquerading as a woman to induce social discord won’t be able to affect you!

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Well, the problem isn't that this is being manufactured, but rather exacerbating already existing problems. The Russian IRA didn't start racism in the US around 2013-2016. 4chan didn't found fascism in the west. North Korea didn't originate the very first crypto scams. You're absolutely right that the problems are blown way out of proportion and there are so many trolls out there, it's hard to tell if any one asshole is paid to be an asshole online or not. However, it's best to not over-correct and deny these problems exist at all, even with hyperbole.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    I do, personally, feel it’s best to simply disregard online rhetoric entirely. It’s genuinely a perfect catch all for 90% of people. You spend more time with actual humans and you maintain a grounded perspective while chiseling those of others. I’ve lost nothing since turning everything besides Reuters into fiction. You carve your own space out of the people around you.

    Which is to say, my vaguely meandering around your point is more cheeky than antagonistic.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Fuck, man, I can't say I disagree with your perspective here. Nor can I say it didn't make me reassess my approach to online spaces.

    It's difficult seeing the online rhetoric of irl bullshit perpetuating and exacerbating very real problems and not feeling like you have to address the bullshit to ensure there's a reasonable counter. I'm not 100% sure if it was your point, but yeah, we just shouldn't take it seriously. It's not apathy, but leaving the bullshit to irrelevance. Engagement is the goal of trolls afterall...

    And you know what? I think you're right in that the remedy is less about what we're against and more about building the future we want to see. Genuine human connection is a great vaccine for preventing the spread of bullshit.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    No, you took my meaning. Fighting an infinite stream of discord from maladjusted people and bots online just soaks you in their sickness. It’s more than a waste of time, it’s actively detrimental to your being. Altering your community, on the other hand, is useful and semi-permanent. And spreading the idea amongst people you find palatable creates little pockets of sunshine that we all get to enjoy. Wew!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Reminds me of Daryl Davis who, as a black man, was able to convince 200 klansmen to leave the kkk by simply befriending them. The cure to all that's evil in the world really is so simple, yet so easy to loose perspective of. The answer to all the world's problems really does just boil down to focusing on building the world we want to see.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Pretty much. Humanity wasn’t crafted with massive societies in mind. Subdividing into social groups of 100 or less, as our ancestors lived in, makes far more sense and allows one to enact change more easily as a singular entity. Like using a hammer to hammer or a drill to drill, just natural tool use.

    But you should probably discard everything you’ve read, considering I am an internet person and therefore not worth engaging with. The ideology is robust!

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    What you percieve as reality is real, to you.

    Its... this is the basic functional mechanism of propoganda, advertising, marketing, etc.

    It does effect people.

    No one is immune to propaganda.

    That's like, the entire problem.

    You might as well just say 'the internet doesn't exist, you've never seen a movie or a tv/netflix show, you've never seen an advertisement.'

    That's about as absurd as what you are saying.

    Also how do you know this isn't genuine?

    How did you determine that?

    Is... everything you don't like, a psyop?

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago*

    It’s not that it’s not real. It’s that you, the person on the other side of the screen, and all that you offer aren’t worth observing or engaging with. This is a parasocial marketplace of ideas where I attempt to avoid being influenced or marketed to. It doesn’t always work, but demoting everyone here to the funny little neurodivergent technoanarchocommununists on my phone has helped.

    To paraphrase, I barely skimmed because it’s inherently better for my mental health lmao

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