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8 Congressional Democrats Vote To Defund Schools That Support Trans People (www.erininthemorning.com)
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On Tuesday, May 19, the U.S. House passed H.R. 2616, the "Stopping Indoctrination and Protecting Kids Act," by a vote of 217-198. The bill would hand the Trump administration enormous leverage to strip federal funding from any school that “teaches or advances concepts” related to transgender people, codifying into federal law the anti-trans definitions from Trump's executive order 14168, "Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism." It would also require public schools to forcibly out transgender students to their parents before using their pronouns or chosen names. The bill is significant on its own terms for the harm it would inflict on transgender youth if it became law. But what made Tuesday's vote especially notable was the eight Democrats who joined every Republican to pass it—the largest Democratic defection on any standalone anti-trans bill of this Congress.

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[–] 11 points 3 months ago (22 children)

When I said both are the same, no one wanted to hear it. I didn't mean vote for the regressives, I meant it's time for guillotines.

People of course, twisted it to mean I was doing a whataboutism.

Well, even a mentally disabled man like me could see it coming years ago!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (14 children)

    This is a shit take. ALL Rs voted for this. No dems NEEDED to vote for this for it to pass, but some did. If we want to make the Dem party an acutal progressive party, then these Nazi pieces of shit need to be primaried. This doesn't make all Dems nazis...

    It's a shit system but you aren't going to change it by 1) not voting and 2) generalizing.

    Vote. For individuals. Not because they are Dem, but because you've dug into a candidate and found them to match your beliefs.

    Fix your attitude, or the progressives will never make it.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Democratic party is controlled opposition and many party members are friends or friendly with Republican party members, and attend the same social events.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    You can believe that, and it's also a shit take. So primary them. I'm not disagreeing that some of them are shit, but writing the whole lot off is a bad take and it's what leads to disinterest in people who would normally vote for SOMETHING.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    The primary is no guaranteed method of change. The DNC is a private club. A primary vote could literally be 100% for a single candidate and the DNC could pick an entirely different candidate with no legal repercussions.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago*

    Totally, so who wants to kick off a new progressive party?

    I think starting at the local level and changing the party from within is the most feasible approach.

    Look at Mamdani, and various other progressives that have made it into their local governments.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    It would be nice if we had multiple parties, instead of two parties controlled by the same group of people and entities.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah and if wishes were fishes there would be no room in the ocean for water.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Well, we live in a dictatorship with a shadow government. They're not going to give us a third party because the second party is just controlled opposition anyway. The reason you think you can vote your way out of this is because you're the last line of the poem.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I will give you a small spoiler.

    All the politicians, with the exception of very very few, like Mamdami, need to be guillotined abruptly, and almost simultaneously.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Sure, that sounds great. You going to get right on that?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    No, I'm getting on disability 😀

    Just explaining what it would take to turn things around.

    Any of them bunkers down, or slips beneath notice, and they rot the system again.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, that's part of the problem right? Some folks talk about the guillotine and yet do nothing about it.

    And you assume the problem goes away if it's possible to guillotine them all. New ones pop up everyday, guillotine today would probably work. Still need to have a better attitude about the overall problem if you want things to be better after.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago

    You don't understand.

    This generation of elites are an unique actually. They explicitly want to wipe out humanity, have bitter resentment, and the skills/resources to do so.

    It would take a very long time for more to come, we can eatablish strong anti-trust laws and try to go for a tech victory...

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Please explain how "both sides are the same" =/= "whatabought the other team"

    There is almost never a third option.

    One side can be shamed, and sometimes even does a good thing. The other side..... 99.9% turbo evil.

    Guillotines will not make life better. North Korea ended up with work camps and famine. China ended up with work camps and famine. The Soviet Union ended up with gulags and famine. See the trend?

    Even France, the OG, Ended up with the Terror, then Napoleon, and they were so traumatized they went back to monarchy.

    Calls for Guillotines are calls for mass death and usually secret police and famine. Nobody can ensure that the "right" people will suffer the violence and you definitely can't promise that only the guilty will suffer from the secret police and starvation.

    If you think the status quo is as bad or worse than the terror I welcome you to kick it off. There are plenty of other Mario characters we can name you after.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    They are just doing the bare minimum in order to create the illusion that there is a second option.

    Both completelly hate your guts, and want to see the poor killed off.

    Now, voting democrat shows them that there is some resistance, so they back off for a while.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    They are just doing the bare minimum in order to create the illusion that there is a second option.

    They aren't that smart.

    Both completelly hate your guts, and want to see the poor killed off.

    They have lots of desires, because they are hundreds and thousands of individuals. They aren't that united.

    Now, voting democrat shows them that there is some resistance, so they back off for a while.

    They have a theory of what Americans want, and they only pass what the stupidest, greediest member of their legislative body thinks. That's why it seems malicious. To get good things to happen, you need to move the floor of the elected party.

    Threatening violence can help with that, like the black panthers. Or Blair mountain. But that way lies great personal risk.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I'm one of the stupidest men alive and even I have more awareness of the state of US politics than most American liberals. You mention that 'vote blue no matter who' is the height of idiocy and receive responses about how not voting is for idiots.

    Of course it is, because not voting isn't the suggestion being made, but it certainly is a useful straw man for the absolute broomsticks who can't swallow the fact their beloved Democrats are just as complicit in the American political charade.

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