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[–] 6 points 3 months ago (21 children)

Europe, China, and Russia should get together and negotiate with Iran. The world cannot just rely on Trump to end the war.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Europe should not get together with Russia. Putin can get fucked.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Just Europe and China could get together, but including Russia would make a more formidable team.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Israel is the one deciding how this goes. They're annexing Lebanon while everyone stares at Donald and gas prices

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    A deal of Europe, Russia, and China with Iran could require Europe not to supply weapons to Israel

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You don't seem to comprehend the hydra of influence Israel has built. They have pull in Europe.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Right after they convince Russia to end the war in Ukraine, right?

    Face it. This is the world that the voters chose. (And yes, there has been a growing Right Wing political movement in most of Europe that has been pushing for this too.)

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    What are you talking about? US military is right there bombing Iran and taking over ships that try to cross the strait. How Europe and China negotiating with Iran would solve that?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Hopefully, Russia joins Europe and China. If Europe, China, and Russia reach a deal with Iran to end the war, it would put pressure on Trump to join. The deal would end Iran's ability to build a nuclear bomb which is what Trump says he wants. If Trump rejects the deal, he will have to explain what else he wants. Trump would probably be happy if Europe, China, and Russia negotiate a deal, since it would end the war and prices would go down. If Trump rejects the deal, European, Chinese, and Russian warships would escort ships out of the Strait of Hormuz.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    That is terrible political fiction. One of the demands Iran is making now is for US to completely leave the region. How could Europe and China agree to this on behalf of US? This simply makes no sense. Trump can end the war at any time. The problem is that there is no deal available to him that will not completely embarrass him. European, Chinese and Russian ships will not escort anything because they will not risk armed conflict with US. You're basically talking about openly ending NATO and creating new anti-US alliance between countries that have completely different interests. This idea is completely ignoring geopolitical reality we live in.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    Europe, Russia, and China could get Iran to drop its demand that the US completely leave the region. If Europe, China, and Russia negotiate a deal with Iran, Trump might be happy since it would end the war and prices will drop. Trump also would be pressured to end the war since the deal would certainly have arrangements that prevent Iran from developing a nuclear bomb. Trump has said that this is his goal. If he rejects the deal, he will have to explain what else does he want. If Trump rejects the deal, it's up to Europe, China, and Russia whether they want to risk war with the US or leave it up to Trump to negotiate a deal.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    If Trump rejects the deal, it’s up to Europe, China, and Russia whether they want to risk war with the US or leave it up to Trump to negotiate a deal.

    I'm 1000% sure Europe, China and Russia don't want to risk a war with the US. This whole idea makes no sense. Trump already should have explained what the fuck is he trying to achieve with this war. He didn't and nothing happened.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    It's up to Europe, China, and Russia whether they want the future of Iran and its impact on the world to be decided by them or Trump.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I will be decided by Trump one way or the other because Europa, China and Russia can't force Trump to do anything.

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