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Facing intense internal pressure, DNC releases postelection autopsy that criticizes Kamala Harris (apnews.com)
submitted 3 months ago by [M] to c/usa@midwest.social
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NEW YORK (AP) — Kamala Harris “wrote off rural America” during the 2024 presidential campaign and failed to attack Donald Trump with sufficient “negative firepower,” according to a long-awaited post-election autopsy released on Thursday by the Democratic National Committee.

The committee’s chair, Ken Martin, shared the 192-page report only after facing intense internal pressure from frustrated Democratic operatives concerned with his leadership. Martin had originally promised to release the autopsy, only to keep it under wraps for months because he was concerned it would be a distraction ahead of the midterms as Democrats mobilize to take back control of Congress.

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[–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The blame doesn't fall wholly on the one side or the other, here. Between the voters, nominees, campaign runners, and the party itself every had something they needed to do to win. Failures were made among all groups and it's valid to point all of them out.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    One of the candidates on the ballot will be sworn into office whether you vote or not. So regardless if you're voting for someone or against someone, it's foolish to silence your only voice in the selection process.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    With the shamefully antiquated Electoral College still in place, that's an interesting push. Of course, that's assuming there is an election. 😶‍🌫️

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    At present I believe the only way to get past the EC is with National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. And the only way to get that is to elect state legislators who will support adopting in. The only way to get them on the general election ballot to be elected is to vote for them in the primary. And since our current reality is that over 99% of state and federal legislators are Democratic or Republican, I believe we can only get those people who support electoral reform elected by nominating them in either the Democratic or Republican primary. It's an actionable thing that we can all do today that doesn't require any systemic reform to have already taken place and it's backed by observable reality. Do you have an alternate suggestion?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I genuinely wish I did, but I'm equipped with a turd paddle, same as my fellow citizens. ✊🏼

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I'm gonna have to remember 'turd paddle'

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

    "Up shit creek" and all that.

    Isn't that how the ol' idiom goes, or does it differ regionally?

    Regardless, it's a handy one to have in the archive. 🤓

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    oh I've always heard it "up shit creek without an oar." When you said paddle I was thinking like table tennis. 😅

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Voting 3rd party at the state and federal level in a district without some form of RCV or an encumbent 3rd party representative is pretty much a counter-productive to giving greater political power to your preferred end of the political spectrum. It's just lowering the number of votes the opposing end of the spectrum needs to win because of our first-past-the-post plurality winner-takes-all system. Yes, I know it's a corrupt system working as designed by those in power. Quoting myself from another thread where included sources for all this:

    We won't get rid of the two-party system by voting for losing 3rd party candidates. At present there are a grand total of 3 (out of 535) federal legislators who are not either Democratic or Republican. Bernie Sanders ran in the Democratic primary for Senate in 2008, winning the nomination but then declining it to run as an Independent. Kevin Kiley was first elected as a Republican and then declared as Independent after several years in office. In all state legislatures combined, there are a total of 6 state senators and 22 state representatives out of 7,578 total state legislative seats. There hasn't been a single electoral college vote for a presidential 3rd party candidate sine 1968, and Perot won 19% of the national popular vote in 1992! Unless you already live in a district with ranked choice voting or with an independent elected official, the odds of displacing either of the major parties is effectively zero. So your best opportunity for reform is still to vote for such candidates at the state level in the major party primary.

    For county and below, have at it. If your state/federal rep is already 3rd party or independent and not getting trounced in public approval, keep them. If your district has RCV, definitely support 3rd party. but in the other 99.5% of districts, voting Green at state and federal level is just making easier for a Republican to win.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    push your shit ass party to earn some fucking votes

    Voting in the primary is exactly how we can most effectively do that.

    none of what you wrote means a damned thing.

    You can choose to ignore observable facts all you want, but that won't change the reality of them.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    The voters are basically the same every election. Yeah they evolve over time but not quickly. You can't blame populace for being exactly who they are.

    They weren't enthusiastic about Kamala, and if you ask me it has everything to do with the economy and approximately fuck all to do with anything else. But you can't fault the people any more than you can fault the tide when there is a flood.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I can absolutely fault every single person who didn't vote in either the primary or the general for giving up their voice. Voting is the only speech that matters in respect to who is sworn into office. If you don't speak up when it counts then I will absolutely call you out for complaining about the result.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You either meet people where they are, you find a strategy to move the people, or you lose. None of that is on the people. Your blame changes nothing. It's wishful thinking — you go into the election with the voters you have, not the voters you wish you had.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    And voters go into the election with the nominees they have, not the nominees they wish they had. And to be clear, people who skip an election because the equate that to voting for "none of the above" are non-voters in that election. The reality we have is that [for over 99% of the state and federal legislative offices and for the presidency] either the Democratic or the Republican nominee will win that election regardless of how many people don't vote or why they chose not to. Not voting lowers the number of votes needed for the other side of the political spectrum to win. It's the last chance for the voting-eligible public to effect the outcome of that election, and to skip it and silence themselves and then complain about the outcome deserves being confronted over. And again, pointing this out does not excuse the failure of Kamala/Walz and their campaign runners and the DNC of their faults. All of them have blame here.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    I can absolutely fault every single person who didn’t vote in either the primary or the general for giving up their voice.

    Oh no, baronvonj on lemmy "blames" me for Kamala and the DNC shitting the bed and running a candidate who wouldnt deviate from a platform with underwater approval rates and wildly illegal genocide support.

    eyeroll

    /s

    On a more serious note, Ken Martin is an idiot and needs to be thrown bodily from the party.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Oh no, baronvonj on lemmy “blames” me for Kamala and the DNC shitting the bed and running a candidate

    No, that's a strawman, I never blamed non-voters for Kamala's campaign or the DNC. I blame them for not voting because that made it easier for Trump to win, by lowering the number of votes he needed to do so. I do blame Kamala for her policies and her campaign managers for their campaign. But I accept that this is real life with real consequences and come election day it was either going to be Trump or Kamala announced as the winner regardless of those things, so I voted against Trump.

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