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What do you use for selfhosting cloud storage? (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] 4 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I currently use NextCloud, but I have been looking to move away from it. My main use case is for syncing photos and videos to the cloud from my phone (Android) and this used to work flawlessly. But, some time in early 2025, it just stopped working. I can still manually upload files and sync still works for other folders (e.g. Documents) just fine. But, photos and videos just won't sync automatically. Not sure if there are other options which would work better, but NextCloud on Android just seems to be broke.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    The just stopped working was the client stopped syncing? NextCloud decided to stop allow private made certificates with its client in 2025 and its what made me switch. I went to Syncthing which works well and is a lot faster and less resource intensive than NextCloud. I also had to move my calendars and chat as well.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    The just stopped working was the client stopped syncing?

    The client doesn't seem to detect new photos as they are created/taken. If I manually upload an image from my photos folder, it syncs just fine. Files in other folders seem to sync just fine. But, photos and videos just never even try to sync.

    NextCloud decided to stop allow private made certificates with its client in 2025 and its what made me switch.

    This hasn't been an issue for me. I pay for a domain and have a certificate issued by Let's Encrypt. The only certificate errors I get are when I refresh the certificate every 6 months, and that's just the client asking me if I want to trust the new certificate.

    Syncthing

    I had looked into this a while back, but it seemed to be more of a point to point solution and not a client-server system. I was aiming to have an authoritative server with everything and clients (both phone and desktop) able to pull the needed/request files. I also like the ability to share via a web link when needed. Am I wrong in that understanding?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah I just spent a few days trying to get Nextcloud on Android working and it was a disaster. I ultimately decided to use Cryptomator to handle the sync since I'm already using it on my PCs, but I'm looking at maybe Syncthing or FolderSync (not sure which is better) because Cryptomator lacks some functionality like keeping local copies and making files available to other apps like galleries, music apps, etc.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    It might not have the functionality you are looking for as far as app integrations, but my progression was Dropbox -> Cryptomator over Dropbox -> rclone over Backblaze B2.

    You can nest a "crypt" remote (end-to-end encryption with your own private key) over tons of cloud providers. You can mount it like a drive in Linux.

    Round Sync is an Android client that can schedule cronlike backups. Pretty much set it and forget it on my phone. I delete things on my phone when I need space and every couple years go cleanup what's in B2.

    Dropbox was better priced at max capacity when I used it ($120/yr for 2TB?). My Backblaze bill started at $1/mo and is like $4/mo now. Its been a couple years since I cleaned things out and could probably cut that in half.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Thanks for the suggestion! I have a few questions, if you don't mind: what did you like more about rclone than Cryptomator? Is it suitable for sync, or is it more for backups? I'm ideally looking for near-ish to real-time sync for contacts, notes, files, and pictures. Are there any frontends for Linux you'd recommend, or do you script out the functionality you're looking to implement?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    what did you like more about rclone than Cryptomator?

    I wanted to leave Dropbox and ran across it. I liked the number of supported backends under one tool. I use it to access things beyond Backblaze like gdrive, SharePoint, OneDrive, Proton Drive. Well documented config file format. I was able to manage the config with Nix due to this.

    Is it suitable for sync, or is it more for backups

    It works great for one way sync. Bisync I never got working well enough to trust it. Bisync is nice for 3-way merges (two devices modifying files on the same cloud drive). Dropbox, gdrive, OneDrive win here. I've learned to live without it.

    I'm ideally looking for near-ish to real-time sync for contacts, notes, files, and pictures

    On a computer the fuse mounted volumes are near live. Cahce locally in a VFS. Anything else you'd have to script probably. There is rclone-watch but can't say I've tested it

    With Round Sync you can browse with live refresh when you move between directories, but syncing would be on a schedule. Looks like a 15m interval is the fastest frequency.

    Are there any frontends for Linux you'd recommend, or do you script out the functionality you're looking to implement?

    I mostly just mount on login with the VFS cache. Use my normal file browser. One command per mount. Its rare (practically never) that I need to work on something without internet, so I don't deal with trying to script syncs. I tried in the early days of playing with it, but fuse mounts ended up meeting my needs.

    No GUI that I use outside of my normal file browser. The only thing I need to use the CLI for is cleaning up soft deleted files and old versions (Backblaze specific thing).

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Thanks for the writeup! I think bidirectional sync is what I'm used to but very few solutions seem to support it outside of the big tech ones, like you mentioned. Perhaps I need to re-evaluate whether I truly need it; I guess it's not often I switch between editing a document on my phone to my laptop and need those changes synced instantly, and I did find a way to get Cryptomator to immediately upload any pictures or screenshots I take. I would still like my Obsidian notes files to upload instantly too, though, I think.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    For photos and video I use immich, which can also hook into your nextcloud and display your stuff In its own tab, as well as allowing you to directly move pics from one to the other. Its a nice gphotos alternative that suits my needs pretty well

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