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I condemn violence but I'm also condoning it in the same breath, yes I'm an incoherent fruit loop, why do you ask? (thelemmy.club)
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Goddam we are already at "it wasn't real but if it was they deserved it"?

From true anon.

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[–] 16 points 4 months ago (6 children)

i'm much less interested in one specific person's appearance than i am in the fact that it's the result of a deliberate cosmetic surgery and has become a trend in a specific political circle despite clashing with wider normative standards for "conventionally attractive."

there's probably a couple social science dissertations there

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I don't particularly question the reasons why individuals do what they do with their physical form as long as it's fully a choice of their free will. It's none of my business.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    considering the politics involved i doubt it's "fully a choice of their free will", even within the extent that such a thing is possible to begin with

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    As a trans person, I sort of live in the space of "am I making this choice because I actually want to or because I'm trying to fit into society better?" That is, many of my choices about my body could be argued to be not entirely a freely made choice.

    But I'm not actually very interested in digging into my motivations for the choices I've made. I thought about them quite a bit before I made them, but now that they're made, I kind of don't care how pressured by society I was when I made them. And if anyone else tried to tell me that my choices were not my own or not freely made? Yeah, fuck right off with that.

    The same applies here. You're probably right, Laura Loomer and all the rest are making a choice that is, of course, mediated and informed by society. But I don't care to dig into her motivations, and I am entirely unwilling to say that her choice to get the surgeries she has gotten is anything other than a free choice made with free will

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    you're speaking to my "even to the extent" cutout. the clothes we do or don't wear, the makeup we do or don't put on, or when, etc. I think that's mostly not worth getting into for regular people

    i think the political cult is insulated from wider society and exerts specific pressures on its members and orbiters that goes beyond wider society's background influence. Trumps goons wear a suit and tie because of social norms, they wear shoes that don't fit because of some extra bullshit.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago*

    Trump goons wear shoes that don't fit because they got gifted them by Trump. Did Trump give Laura Loomer a plastic surgery giftcard or something?

    Excuse me for being a little flippant here, but I do not believe that that these conservative women getting serious plastic surgery is primarily loyalty-signaling. I full on think that's entirely bullshit and will continue to do so right up until one of these conservative women comes out and says it directly

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Yeah, she, or Trump, or whomever don't just happen to look like that, they deliberately paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to make themselves look like that. It's an elaborate costume and class signifier. Making fun of Mar-A-Lago face is like making fun of how Louis XIV dressed

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