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[–] SleepySaf@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 4 months ago* (9 children)

Even if you also criticize the terrible crimes of the West much more harshly, China is exempt from even the lightest criticism 👍

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[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You posted a single contextless image to complain about our comrades over on grad banning you. From what I see in the image, you first come in hot and have nothing of value to say (comment 1) and then exhibit much vitriol toward a country my genocidal leaders want me to fear and hate (comment 2) for a a sin that is not unique to China, then wonder why people treat you with suspicion.

If you wanted to have a discussion about wasteful production you could have done that and talked about the economic context (global capitalism) in which China exists, as well as China's long term strategies.

I don't really care what you have to say. I don't care about "consumerism" in China. Why do you? Imperialism is the primary contradiction.

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[–] SleepySaf@hexbear.net [S] -1 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

I wrote my first comment out of frustration after writing out a whole comment and then deleting it because it was more effort than it was worth. And then I ended up needing to write basically the comment out again in the reply.

And it's not consumerism in China that's the problem. It's consumerism in America that's the problem, obviously, because China and particularly Shein is manufacturing for export. China is serving a market need, and I think they are uniquely poised to exploit their position to serve this need in a way nobody else is. The West provides the incentive, China capitalizes on it. But quite frankly at this point it would be incredibly tiring to write out a nuanced take with enough caveats, counter criticism of the west, and sugarcoating to appease the dogmatists who take any criticism of China as evidence of liberalism.

I'm going to touch grass and I think so should y'all, because you can't be nuanced without writing a whole dissertation here ig.

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[–] Lowleekun@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

Shein is manufacturing the same way amazon does. It is a market platform.

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[–] SleepySaf@hexbear.net [S] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Like, don't get me wrong, the imperialist machine is absolutely trying to tear down China through criticism among other things, but are we as Communists not allowed to discuss what we could do differently, not for the purposes of improving China, but for the purposes of honing our own goals and methods? Or is learning from the mistakes of others only allowed after Gorbachev dissolves them?