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[–] 10 points 4 months ago (5 children)

It's cool that you enjoyed it! But there's no need to pretend that this is a binary choice. Guardians of the Galaxy is also capeshit with a stoic woman, yet IMO Gamorra is a much more interesting character than Captain Marvel.

I also liked many parts of the movie, but some other parts were big enough misses that I'm not really interested in rewatching.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    IMO Gamorra is a much more interesting character than Captain Marvel.

    Eh. Gamora is the love interest of a protagonist of the movie. (Arguably the main one in GoG, obviously but still.)

    Captain Marvel is the protagonist of her movie.

    Idk, I've seen GoG movies twice at least but I haven't rewatched Captain Marvel... maybe it's a good time. Thanks.

    But yeah for the female characters from GoG i just find Nebula a far more interesting character. We actually see her develop and see her past and she's not just a romantic interest (even when there's hint of a bit of that perhaps), unlike Gamora. Gamora didn't really have an arc imo, just disliking his "daddy" and then dying. And then coming back and being a bitch more or less. Dk, seems uninteresting to me.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    That might be why Gamora works and Captain Marvel doesn't, because of human(?) connections.

    She starts out the film as a lone vigilante trying to keep the infinity stone out of Thanos' hands, is willing to harm or even kill people to do so if needed, but realizes she needs help from the others to accomplish this goal. She threatens to kill Starlord for putting moves on her and is just generally uncooperative for most of her scenes but slowly starts to trust and appreciate them.

    Captain Marvel is the opposite development: She's got a bunch of space nazi friends who do bad things together and she has no idea because of her space-magic amnesia. She communicates with the earthlings but mostly at gunpoint or under similar threat, except for the singular living woman who knows her past, and then when she discovers her powers she just goes and finishes everything on her own with 0 struggle or hesitation. It's the extremist teenage power fantasy: become a complete recluse and kill everyone who looks at you funny.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It's the extremist teenage power fantasy: become a complete recluse and kill everyone who looks at you funny.

    Lol. Sure, but if that's the amount of contempt we're putting to our analysis, Gamora is the ultimate kawai waifu that the hero is destined to be with, even getting his godlike Daddies (think like an Arnie as inlaw oh wait no who has that can't be the same person leading this movie) acceptance for his boyfriend, who is overall very average, very mid all around, but still saves the universe.

    They're all complete fantasies and based on a lot of silly wishful stuff.

    "Threatens to kill Starlord for putting the moves on him" lol, as if that was even remotely an actual threat instead of thinly veiled sexual innuendo. No way, the mid tier guy has to like, make the attractive lady want them through being a bad person, despite being very mid and not having the attention of the attractive kawai waifus, overcoming it through the power of personality. But also, he's literally a god. Well, "A celestial". Which never gets shown, except the once, which doesn't reflect to his abilities or strengths in any way.

    Yes, the ultimate standin for the average comic fan, I guess?

    But Cpt Marvel actually develops as a character. Perhaps from bad to not-so-good, but they develop. And perhaps you don't enjoy aspects of the movie which I might, I dk. We prolly like different things, and honestly, can't remember that much of Cpt Marvel as a plot, so it couldn't have been that good, but I do remember enjoying the character of Cpt Marvel more than Gamora at any point. Gamora might have been interesting in some comics or smth but at least in the movie she didn't have development, just a romantics interest of the lead who then gets killed by Arn... Big Daddy.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    lol, as if that was even remotely an actual threat instead of thinly veiled sexual innuendo

    She turned his head and held a knife to his neck...

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Exactly. Sexual innuendo.

    Or who here or in the audiences actually thought the protagonist was going murdered in the middle of a movie like that?

    No-one.

    Thinly veiled sexual innuendo. Not perhaps from the characters own perspective, but we're not her, we're looking at the movies as structure. Did you by the way know the rule "any announced plans never happen". And even the audience doesn't know they know it, they do. Like whenever a hero goes over their plan or something. Any actual promises or plans that are announced and "will happen" never do. So "I will kill yourself if you don't stop your horny (average looking) ass from from horning after me" actually becomes more like "I won't kill you, despite you continuing exactly like before"

    And even then GoG movies still have a better female character, Nebula.

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