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Cars turned us—one of the best species in long distance running into couch potatoes.

Now llms are attacking our brains and making us stupid and insane. A species of slopheads if you will.

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 127 points 3 months ago

steve jobs famously called the personal computer "a bicycle for the mind", in that it's a tool that makes you more efficient. calling language models "an automobile for the mind" in that it gets you there very quickly, without any expended effort, locks you into specific intrastructure, and is bad for the environment, seems pretty apt.

[-] Flagstaff@programming.dev 19 points 3 months ago

locks you into

Can't go wrong with offline and open-source!

[-] DecentM@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 months ago

Locking in in this context means that you're relying on an LLM for your problem solving - atrophying your skills in the meantime, making you dependent on a model. So you can indeed go wrong with open weight abd self hosted ones. At least thats my understanding of this.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Here's the scary part... The skill of developers has been for about 20 years: "look it up on stack overflow. Find a similar problem. Fix it to suit my environment."

But... No one is posting to stack overflow anymore. So LLMs have effectively become stack overflow.

I try to not let the skill atrophy by doing it the old way. Can't. The well is running dry.

What I will say is that LLMs make parsing logs a lot easier. So, doing things the old old fashioned way is still in the cards.

It's weird out here.

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

No one is posting to stack overflow anymore. So LLMs have effectively become stack overflow.

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

it wasn't what i was getting at, but that's also true. the model requires a certain setup to be effective, so now you're locked into that. the model does things a certain way, so now you're locked into that. nobody reads the code it produces, so now you're locked into that.

all the while every other way of doing things disappears from your mind.

[-] Flagstaff@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

That's not true because in the past if I couldn't figure it out then I just gave up. This at least gives me one more step to try; there were no skills to atrophy. I chiefly use it to achieve optional quality-of-life aspects, and only on a needs basis, <1x/wk.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 3 months ago

considering the massive accidents of models deleting codebases and production db's, the fact that the tool may be open source doesn't really help.

besides, i don't know any open source models. i know of open-weight models, but i've yet to see anyone share the training regime and source data for an even vaguely effective model.

[-] Flagstaff@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Oh, those were discovered to just be staff control issues, like a kid (intern) giving a toddler (LLM) a gun (way excessive file permissions). Fair about weight vs. source, though... I'll need to look into this more.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

This would be the same Steve Jobs that thought an all-fruit diet both killed cancer and made it so he didn't have to shower? The one who died when Eliza was still state of the art?

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago

Broken clock etc

[-] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 3 months ago

just like the only guy to win two unshared nobel prizes, yes

[-] Prathas@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

Well, you sorta have to be a little mad (crazy) to invent touchscreen phones, no?

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 months ago

PDA's were already everywhere, so that was only a small step, if he even had them invented.

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